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[b:9ebf2cb0d7]1926-1946 Franchise League with Negro Leaguers [/b:9ebf2cb0d7]

To follow up our 1888-1925 Franchise League with NeLs, here is the [b:9ebf2cb0d7]1926-1946 version[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]. You will have the opportunity to play with a smaller set of players, use players you may not normally use, and add selected NeL players who didn’t get to participate during this era.

14 seasons, [b:9ebf2cb0d7]100m, DH[/b:9ebf2cb0d7] (I know there was no DH then, but gives better opportunity to use more players)

[b:9ebf2cb0d7]THIS IS A 14 SEASON COMMITMENT. [/b:9ebf2cb0d7]Managers rotate through the 14 teams; 2 teams per season will rotate out

Draft players carded to yoru franchise from 1926-1946. In addition, the AutoDraft follows [b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED [/b:9ebf2cb0d7]and [b:9ebf2cb0d7]OFFLIMITS [/b:9ebf2cb0d7]players listed below. You [b:9ebf2cb0d7]ARE NOT REQUIRED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7] to draft your ASSIGNED players, they are simply yours [b:9ebf2cb0d7]exclusively [/b:9ebf2cb0d7]UNTIL the Auto-draft runs. You MAY PLACE players from rotated out teams on your Autodraft Card, just realize that others may be after them as well, so place them higher on your draft card. For example, for the 2 seasons when the A’s/Phillies are rotated out, Al Simmons could be grabbed as a Free Agent by the White Sox, Tigers, Browns/Sens, Reds, and Red Sox/Braves. Whew!

After the Auto-draft, any Free Agents who played for your franchise [b:9ebf2cb0d7]FROM 1926-1946[/b:9ebf2cb0d7] are eligible to be added to your team; [b:9ebf2cb0d7]Negro League Free Agents are not eligible[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]. You may ONLY use the NeLs assigned to you. You may ONLY use cards from 1926-1946.

Negro Leaguers may be traded, along with players carded to more than one team. These are the ONLY TRADES ALLOWED.

To keep things simple, 1926-1946 are the ONLY years that [b:9ebf2cb0d7]EXIST [/b:9ebf2cb0d7]for this league. You may ONLY use cards from 1926-1946. You may only use Free agents who played for your team FROM 1926-1946.

Each franchise has 3 stadium options, listed below with the franchises.

We will randomize for Team Rotation Order and Manager Rotation Order. We will use Lottery States to determine divisions, so please list one at sign-up.b

[b:9ebf2cb0d7]SPECIAL NOTES[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: The Yankees are divided into TWO teams: the 1926-1934 Yankees ([b:9ebf2cb0d7]MURDERER’S ROW[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]) and the 1935-1946 Yankees ([b:9ebf2cb0d7]BRONX BOMBERS[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]). AFTER the Auto-draft, [b:9ebf2cb0d7]ANY [/b:9ebf2cb0d7]Yankees from 1926-1946 are fair game for either Yankees team. And, there may be one or two lucky managers who find one Yankee team rotated out in a particular season.

Some teams were combined to keep groupings competitive: the Boston teams, the Philly teams, and the Browns/Senators.

A handful of players are ASSIGNED to teams they do not have an eligible card for, but played for during their careers: Rip Collins, Pete Alexander, and Chick Hafey. Though he never played for them, Chuck Klein is assigned to the White Sox for competitive balance...and he did at least play for the Chicago CUBS......


[b:9ebf2cb0d7][color=red:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]BOSTON RED SOX/BRAVES[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7] [/b:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/dxd6fu06fzn9mok79qsjnewjv-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/3kgwjp6heowkeg3w8zoow9ggy-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Bob Klinger, Quincy Trouppe NeL, John Beckwith NeL, Max Manning NeL, Joe Rogan NeL, Charles Blackwell NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Rudy York, Wally Moses, Dave BAncroft, Joe Cronin, Joe Harris (ineligible due to card year)
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Parks[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Braves 41, Fenway 41, Fenway 46

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][color=blue:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]BROOKLYN DODGERS[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7] [img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/dodgers-1-2-1.jpg[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Dazzy Vance, Dave Bancroft, Dolf Luque, Bill Monroe NeL, Jud Wilson NeL, Rap Dixon NeL, Oscar Charleson NeL, Andy Cooper NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Lefty O’Doul
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Parks[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Ebbets 41, Catholic Prep Oval NeL, Martin NeL

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]CHICAGO WHITE SOX[/size:9ebf2cb0d7] [/b:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/oxvkprv7v4inf5dgqdebp0yse-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: CHUCK KLEIN, Wally Moses, Biz Mackey NeL, Mule Suttles NeL, Frank Warfield NeL, Judy Johnson NeL, Turkey Stearnes NeL, William Bell NeL, Leon Day NeL, Dave Brown NeL, Clint Brown, Thornton Lee
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: none
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Comiskey 41, South Side NeL, Stars NeL

[color=blue:9ebf2cb0d7][b:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]CHICAGO CUBS[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/q9gvs07u72gc9xr3395u6jh68-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: RIP COLLINS, PETE ALEXANDER, Rogers Hornsby, Dick Lundy NeL, Jelly Gardner NeL, Slim Jones NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: none
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Wrigley 41, Stars NeL, Muehlebach NeL

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][color=red:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]CINCINNATI REDS[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7] [img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/2919-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: CHICK HAFEY, Superman Pennington NeL, Pete Hill NeL, Wild Bill Wright NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Dolf Luque
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Parks[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Crosley 41, Washington NeL, Ruppert NeL

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][color=red:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]CLEVELAND INDIANS[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7] [/b:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/wnyd2zhh84f50ux4uxyqbktbh-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Earl Averill, Spoony Palm NeL, Ray Dandridge NeL, Willie Wells NeL, Jimmie Lyons NeL, Webster McDonald NeL, John Donaldson NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Monte Pearson, Clint Brown, Thornton Lee, Hal Newhouser (ineligible due to card year)
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: League 24, League 34, League 41

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][color=darkblue:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]DETROIT TIGERS[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7] [img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/txtu234jlffk0q5l62uhnwm3q-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Billy Sullivan, Hal Newhouser, Tank Carr NeL, Willard Brown NeL, Cool Papa Bell NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Earl Averill
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Navin 34, Briggs 41, Mack NeL

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]NEW YORK GIANTS[/size:9ebf2cb0d7] [/b:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/cpqj6up5bvgpoedg5fwsk20ve-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Lefty O’Doul, Bonnie Serrell NeL, Cristobal Torriente NeL, Neil Robinson NeL, Dick Redding NeL, Roosevelt Davis NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Dolf Luque, Dave Bancroft (ineligible due to card year)
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Parks[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Polo 24, Polo 41, Terrapin NeL

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][color=darkblue:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]MURDERER’S ROW[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7] [img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/1256-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: All Yankees with 1926-1934 cards, Lefty Gomez, Pop Lloyd NeL, Sam Bankhead NeL, Big Bill Foster NeL, Verdell Mathis NeL, Frank Wickware NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: All Yankees with 1935-1946 cards
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Yankee 41, Yankee NeL


[b:9ebf2cb0d7][color=darkblue:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]BRONX BOMBERS[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7] [img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/7205-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: All Yankees with 1935-1946 cards, Monte Pearson, Buck Leonard NeL, Bernardo Baro NeL, Bingo DeMoss NeL, Leroy Matlock NeL, Sam Streeter NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: All Yankees with 1926-1934 cards
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Yankee 41, Yankee NeL

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][color=green:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]PHILADELPHIA A’S/PHILLIES[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7] [img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/fbf8agpcrht8b1wlh5el22hba-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/xpq3kkv2xh3lketdfm89-1-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Home Run Johnson NeL, Ted Trent NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Chuck Klein, Pete Alexander (ineligible due to card year), Dave Bancroft (ineligible due to card year)
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Baker 34, Shibe 41 (NL & AL), Rickwood NeL

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]PITTSBURGH PIRATES[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/pittsburgh-pirates-cap-logo-6-primary-2-1.jpg[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Joe Harris, Josh Gibson NeL, Dihigo Martin NeL, Alejandro Oms NeL, Smokey Joe Williams NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Bob Klinger
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Forbes 41, Greenlee NeL, Hilldale NeL

[b:9ebf2cb0d7][color=red:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]ST. LOUIS CARDINALS[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/wsulgavxp8d0szhyh8oh-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Sammy Hughes NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Dazzy Vance, Rip Collins, Pete Alexander, Rogers Hornsby (ineligible due to card year)
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Sportsman’s 41 (AL & NL), Stars NeL, Muehlebach NeL

[color=red:9ebf2cb0d7][b:9ebf2cb0d7][size=18:9ebf2cb0d7]BROWNS/SENATORS[/size:9ebf2cb0d7][/b:9ebf2cb0d7][/color:9ebf2cb0d7] [img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/senators-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7][img:9ebf2cb0d7]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab13/andycummings/supersmall%20Logos/brownslogo-1-1.gif[/img:9ebf2cb0d7]
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]ASSIGNED[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]:Joe Cronin, Oscar heavy Johnson NeL, Newt Allen NeL, Chino Smith NeL, Satchel Paige NeL, Ray Brown NeL
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]DO NOT DRAFT[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Billy Sullivan
[b:9ebf2cb0d7]Park[/b:9ebf2cb0d7]: Griffith 24, Griffith 41, Sportsman’s 41 (AL & NL)

below is the randomized order of managers
1.dharmabums NJ
2.thetallguy747 IL
3.warrenbob MI
4.Steve Ames TN
5.majicmg FL
6.jamesgang77 NY
7.Red Beards DE
8.bontomn CA
9.papasturgeon MD
10.mykeedee WA
11.motherscratcher OH
12.andycummings PA

below is george barnard's randomizer for teams (joekendall's manager randomizer is on the ATG boards)

[quote:b79c51301c]1, 10, 6, 11, 9, 7, 2, 3, 4, 12, 5, 14, 8, 13

Hope it suits your needs.

Bill [/quote:b79c51301c]

1. Boston Red Sox/Braves
2. Bronx Bombers 35-46
3. Cleveland Indians
4. Philadelphia A's/Phillies
5. Murderer's Row 26-34
6. Detroit Tigers
7. Brooklyn Dodgers
8. Chicago White Sox
9. Chicago Cubs
10. Pittsburgh Pirates
11. Cincinnati Reds
12. Browns/Senators
13. New York Giants
14. St. Louis Cardinals

Boston Red Sox/Braves - dharmabums NJ
Bronx Bombers 35-46 - thetallguy747 IL
Cleveland Indians - warrenbob MI
Philadelphia A's/Phillies - Steve Ames TN
Murderer's Row 26-34 - majicmg FL
Detroit Tigers - jamesgang77 NY
Brooklyn Dodgers - Red Beards DE
Chicago White Sox - bontomn CA
Chicago Cubs - papasturgeon MD
Pittsburgh Pirates - mykeedee WA
Cincinnati Reds - motherscratcher OH
Browns/Senators - andycummings PA

The Cardinals and Giants are Rotated Out this season. This means that if any of the players assigned to the Giants and Cardinals are eligible for YOUR team, you may place them on your draft card.

I WILL USE LAST NIGHT'S LOTTERY NUMBERS TO ASSIGN DIVISIONS. I WILL MAKE MOVE DIVISIONS TO MAKE WHATEVER DIVISION STEVE IS IN THE WEST, since he is still in the hospital........

Thanks for the welcome back Andy...interesting, the last franchise league i was in (one season 24 team) i had the Tigers then as well. Was for the entire ATG history of the franchise. Will be a fun challenge here with the year restrictions :-)

DIVISIONS FOR SEASON #1

EAST
Murderer's Row 26-34 - majicmg FL 874
Brooklyn Dodgers - Red Beards DE 595
Chicago White Sox - bontomn CA 312
Cincinnati Reds - motherscratcher OH 224
CENTRAL
Bronx Bombers 35-46 - thetallguy747 IL 868
Pittsburgh Pirates - mykeedee WA 593
Detroit Tigers - jamesgang77 NY 234
Browns/Senators - andycummings PA 103
WEST
Cleveland Indians - warrenbob MI 953
Boston Red Sox/Braves - dharmabums NJ 619
Chicago Cubs - papasturgeon MD 578
Philadelphia A's/Phillies - Steve Ames TN 232

WILL a Manager in the EAST please create the league?

Call it: #1 1926-1946 League
[b:2bb90cec0e]PRE-WW2[/b:2bb90cec0e], 100m, DH, WAIVERS, ADVANCED, 5/10/20

post password here unless you want to take the time to PM everyone individually :D

Question? so Harry Heilmann who played for the Tigers but has a card from 1925 can only be picked up by me (or the Reds) after the autodraft? And during waivers both my Tigers AND the Reds franchise can go afterr Heilmann since he played for both teams?

Or is Heilmann only eligible to the Tigers since he has a card for them and not the Reds?

Same with Ty Cobb i just realized :D (Tigers & A's)

Housekeeping Issues:

I have created a Committee of 5, choosing some guys who have done a lot of these leagues as well as some new blood. This committee will address any problems that may arise as we move forward. The main issue I see that could be a problem is if and when bernie puts new cards into ATG6. I think most of these cards will be chronologically "newer", but if a card is inserted that is in our particular era, it MAY affect competitive balance. This committee will help ME decide whether to insert the card or not, as well as tackling compliance issues. I have decided on 5 so that if an issue affects a particular manager, he can recuse himself from that particular decision. All managers may express their opinion on any matter, I just want to have a group to address these card issues that can be large enough to be unbiased without being so large that I have to contact every member of the league.

Our first season may see some unforeseen problems arise with particular groupings or with the league as a whole. LET ME KNOW OF PROBLEMS THAT MAY ARISE WHEN PUTTING YOUR TEAM TOGETHER.........