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TEAMS

1) NL East Expansion - (all EXP teams only) Chicago Cubs, Montreal
Expos, New York Mets, Philadelphia Phillies, Pittsburgh Pirates, St. Louis Cardinals - + Larry Walker


2) NL West Expansion - (all EXP teams only) Atlanta Braves, Cincinnati
Reds, Houston Astros, Los Angeles Dodgers, San Diego Padres, San Francisco Giants + Todd Helton

3) AL East Expansion - (all EXP teams only) Baltimore Orioles, Boston Red Sox, Cleveland Indians, Detroit Tigers, Milwaukee Brewers, New York
Yankees, Toronto Blue Jays + Curt Schilling and Miguel Cabrera

4) AL West Expansion - (all EXP Teams only) California Angels, Chicago
White Sox, Kansas City Royals, Minnesota Twins, Oakland Athletics, Seattle Mariners, Texas Rangers + Dean Chance, Bobby Grich and Randy Johnson


5) Beantown - BOS-DB, BOS-PRE, BOS-POST, BSB-DB, BSB-PRE, MIL-
POST


6) Big Apple Nationals - BKN-DB, BKN-PRE, BKN-POST, NYG-DB, NYG-PRE,
NYG-POST


7) Acela Express - NYY-DB, NYY-PRE, NYY-POST, WAS-DB, WAS-PRE, WAS- POST, Wash EXP


8) City of Brotherly Love - KC-POST, PHA-DB, PHA-PRE, PHI-DB, PHI-PRE,
PHI-POST


9) Ohio River - CIN-DB, CLE- DB, CIN-POST, PIT-DB, PIT-PRE,
PIT-POST + Frank Robinson, Nap Lajoie


10) Great Lakes - CIN- PRE, CLE-PRE-CLE-POST, DET-DB, DET-
PRE, DET-POST


11) Windy City - CHC-DB, CHC-PRE, CHC-POST, CHW-DB, CHW-PRE, CHW-POST


12) Gateway City - BAL-POST, SLB-PRE, SLB-DB, STL-DB, STL-PRE, STL-POST


[u:f87a77d81b][b:f87a77d81b]Rules for discussion:[/b:f87a77d81b][/u:f87a77d81b]
1.) Where players have cards with multiple teams and/or multiple eras, the team with rights to the high dollar card gets Auto Draft rights.. if the cards are not auto drafted any team with a lower dollar version of that player can draft them out of the free agetn pool.. thoughts?

2.) Card version (do we allow teams to use any version of a player, or just the version carded to their team (i.e. the Cardinals could not use the Cubs Hornsby ect..)

3.) Do we include the NEL Players? How about a grabber team?

4.) I am thinking a rotating salary cap (between 140, 130 and 100) by season.. Proabably stay with a DH throughout, but open to a season or 2 where pitchers bat (in a 100 mil season)

5.) ball parks, as always associated with the team you selected

6.) Divisions and team rotation order will be randomized..

Thoughts on these topics???

A few thoughts:

I think it would be best if everyone committed to 12 seasons, playing each grouping once, and only once.

I like your groupings, and I agree that multiple-carded players go first to the teams where they are higher-salaried. I would urge that multiple-carded players be used only by the teams they are assigned to (thus, the Cardinals manager could use only Hornsby's StL card,

But I don't like the rotating salary idea. It doesn't seem fair to force one manager to play a $120 mil Yankees team while, the next season, the new Yankees manager might get a $140 mil team.

I'd leave the NeLers out entirely, unless one or two of them are needed to strengthen a weak grouping -- and, then, only on a strict assigned basis.
For example, if one of the groupings is short at a position, add a NeLer to the roster. But, at quick glance, I didn't notice any groups that would require this.

I'll try to stay in touch over the next 30 days, when I'll be traveling on vacation.

Tom

[color=red:3f7d8b1bd1]My thoughts below; 2city, you always do a good job of spreading talent around for league slike this[/color:3f7d8b1bd1]
Rules for discussion:

1.) Where players have cards with multiple teams and/or multiple eras, the team with rights to the high dollar card gets Auto Draft rights.. if the cards are not auto drafted any team with a lower dollar version of that player can draft them out of the free agetn pool.. thoughts? [color=red:3f7d8b1bd1]Yes[/color:3f7d8b1bd1]

2.) Card version (do we allow teams to use any version of a player, or just the version carded to their team (i.e. the Cardinals could not use the Cubs Hornsby ect..) [color=red:3f7d8b1bd1]I disagree with Tom on this; If i get a player i want to be able to use any card[/color:3f7d8b1bd1]

3.) Do we include the NEL Players? How about a grabber team? [color=red:3f7d8b1bd1]No Nels, no Grab Bag. LIke the NeL cards, but they totally throw off the purpose of a Franchise League[/color:3f7d8b1bd1]

4.) I am thinking a rotating salary cap (between 140, 130 and 100) by season.. Proabably stay with a DH throughout, but open to a season or 2 where pitchers bat (in a 100 mil season) [color=red:3f7d8b1bd1]Don't like rotating; 120-130m is fair[/color:3f7d8b1bd1]

5.) ball parks, as always associated with the team you selected [color=red:3f7d8b1bd1]Yes[/color:3f7d8b1bd1]

6.) Divisions and team rotation order will be randomized.. [color=red:3f7d8b1bd1]Yes[/color:3f7d8b1bd1]

[color=red:3f7d8b1bd1]Oh, and I'm in, regardless of what is decided on the above points[/color:3f7d8b1bd1]

I am in and here are my 2 cents.

Player Card: Best to be used.
Cap: 120-140MM Set. No changing.
Groupings are fine.
No NELs, unless a 1 Rd draft for NELers is used and it is 1 per team. This would change with each season as a randomizer would be needed to determine drafting positions.
Stadium based on groupings only.

Thanks Andy, Frank and Tom, I appreciate your feedback.. Let's let a few other managers chime in with their opinions..

BTW, this will be a 12 season commitment.. Assuming we do not add a team grouping for the NEL's or a grab bag.. which at this point does not seem like a popular idea..

I'm in if it's a $120 million max. All other rules I'll go with whatever is decided.

I am in and agree with Andy

It's an enjoyable theme, but I will have to pass. Just too many multi-league commitments running right now. Have fun, guys.

Thank you Andy for taking over as league commissioner. This will be a challenging theme once the ground rules are set. The multiple player cards will make this rather interesting. I will be glad to play again.

I like the $120M cap, it forces some managing. Highest salary card prevails makes sense to me. Otherwise, this will be a difficult one to unravel. Torn a little bit with the manager having rights to all player cards and just using the highest salary one of set. The highest salary one use only makes it simple.