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I'm about to enter into a pre-card draft for Strat 2008 (2007 season). What is the criteria for who will be a SP vs a *SP?
[list:503ee37c6e][*:503ee37c6e]Is it 200 innings?
[*:503ee37c6e]Is it a certain number of starts?
[*:503ee37c6e]Is is some combination?
[*:503ee37c6e]Does anyone really know?[/list:u:503ee37c6e]

Thanks in advance.

I looked at the 07 pitchers and there were 6 pitchers with less than 200 innings that had *. Everyone above 200 had an *.

Of the 6 below 200 innings with an * the lowest wast 194.1. However, Contreras, 196 and Blanton 194.1 did not get an *.

Marquis(*) & Blanton had the same # of innings but Marquis had 33 starts and Blanton had 31. But, Ortiz, 190.2 innings & Penny 189 innings had 33 starts but did not get *.

Contreras had 30 starts.

I'd say you're safe with 200 innings but 50-50 for those just under.

Yeah, there is a weird sliding scale where under 190 IP never gets it, more than 200 IP always gets it, and there's a 10-inning no man's land in between where it somewhat nebulously depends on the combination of the exact precise number of IP, and how many starts you have (more being better.) Are you interested in anyone specific?

Thanks guys. So my guess for the 2008 cards (2007 season) are as follows:

[u:6865d1d623]Will be 4-day *SP:[/u:6865d1d623]
Moyer 199 IP, 33 starts
Lowe 199, 32
Wang 199, 30
Morris 198, 32
Zito 196, 33
Hill 195, 32

[u:6865d1d623]Will be 5-day SP:[/u:6865d1d623]
Escobar 195, 30
Washburn 193, 32
Batista 193, 32
Davis 192, 33
Lohse 192, 32
Marquis 191, 33

Do you agree?

Ooh, wow. A lot of close calls. Your list is the "safe" list, if you want to make sure that you don't assume that someone will get it and then be disappointed. But other than Escobar, some or all of the other guys on that second list could easily get it.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. :roll:

I think all your 5 day guesses will, in fact, be 5 day starters. It is possible that one could sneak in but I believe all of these are below 50% chance. I think 33 starts are more important to the * than innings. The get-in point is: (based on the last two years- although I am on the road and do not have my stats with me-- so from memory...

200 innings automatic
33 starts with 194 or more innings
32 starts with 198-199 innings.

Moyer- yes. He has 199 inn AND 33 starts. 200 always get in, 33 starts almost always gets in.

Lowe and Morris True borderline

Wang: No way- not enough starts to go with not enough innings

Zito: Better tha 50/50 because of 33 starts but borderline

so this is where my competition is getting its information :wink:
I should peruse these boards more regularly!!
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