ATG III Half Squad Keeper Theme Season I - Play Ball!!

[Proverbial Psalms]

Name: wjanssen

Proposal I: 8

Proposal II: Yes

Proposal III: Yes

Proposal IV: B

[dacelo]

Name: dacelo

Proposal I: 10

Proposal II: Yes

Proposal III: Yes

Proposal IV: B


With regards to II, I'm guessing there's little chance someone will draft both the hitting and pitching squads from the same teams several times, giving them less than 8 (or 5) parks to choose from.

[ArrylT]

Having run a similar theme in 200x twice, i've seen an owner end up with 2 1/2 squads from the same team once . I think with 70 possible half squads and a huge # of conceivable combinations it may be possible that a couple owners might end up with 2 1/2 teams from the same team (say '27 Yankees) if they are lucky, but I really doubt anyone will be have more than 1 "complete set".

[JOHNSCHINGEL]

Name: roofatoppa3

Proposal I: 8

Proposal II: Yes

Proposal III: Either

Proposal IV: B

[Hakmusic]

Name: Hakmusic

Proposal I: either

Proposal II: Yes (5 out of 8, but 4 different in first 4 years)

Proposal III: Yes (would really like year by year trades only)

Proposal IV: C (but would be OK with B)

I am concerned about the for keeps trading. Someone could still trade the best players from a team and then drop the team, regardless of which form of dropping we do. I vote for NO for keeps trades. You can set up a "for keeps trade" and revisit each year. I.e. if a for keeps trade is made and a team is being dropped, the trade would have to revert. That's just my feeling, otherwise it is easy to take advantage of.

I would also re-modigy Schu's proposal to say that you must use 4 different stadiums in the first four years, and then go from there. Otherwise someone could use the same stadium the first 4 years, and we don't know for sure how long this could go.

Also, I am fine with the 80/100, DH/no DH plan, but if we go to a season 5 through 8, I would strongly vote for 60 and 120 and 200 leagues..

[ArrylT]

Personally, I have faith that owners aren't going to do trades with the intention of gutting & dropping 1/2 squads. Furthermore, if someone does try to attempt that, we can always add further restrictions.

For example, we could always add a stipulation that an owner must hold onto a 1/2 squad for at least 1 extra year per player they trade "for keeps". So if an owner used his 3 "for keeps" trades all on one team he'd be required to hold onto that 1/2 squad for an extra 3 years.

However, I would rather start off with less restrictions, and make adjustments as we see what does & does not work rather than over-regulate or remove a part of the theme that I want to have in.

Same for sschu's proposal. If we see an owner use the same park for 3+ seasons, we can always adjust the rules.

[sschu]

My proposal for park changes was not so much to limit managers as to make it more interesting and challenging. If you know that you will be playing in 5-8 different type parks, you will draft accordingly. You will also be willing to trade when a new season begins.

FWIIW, sschu

[Proverbial Psalms]

[quote:e316f39e19="ArrylT"]5 - 10% Salary Hit [/quote:e316f39e19]

Could we use the 5/10/20 rule?

I've used that in the 80's league, it's good because it allows a bit more tinkering in the beginning, formulative stages of the season... as we learn how our drafted team really is faring and so on, then graduates to the 10% and finally 20% penalty after game 81, so the final stretch isn't impacted by as many later-tweakings.. your team's the team by then.

It averages out to the 10% you propose (not exactly as intervals are not even)... what do you think?

[Toyboys]

Toyboys

Proposal I: 8

Proposal II: Yes

Proposal III: No Limit

Proposal IV: C


I am also in favor of the 5/10/20 rule

[errormagnate]

Errormagnate (Steve Ames)
Proposal I - either

Proposal II- either

Proposal III- either

Proposal IV- C

anything else I will go along with