'Exploring the ATG III Sub-Sets' League - Season I - NL Only

[ArrylT]

[b:4753148be6][u:4753148be6]Concept:[/u:4753148be6][/b:4753148be6]

We will divide the player pool into the 4 sub sets of

AL Only
NL Only
1903-1959
1961-1990

We will draft 3 complete teams each* and build our team from the teams that we draft. Restricted Trading will be allowed. By the time the four seasons are done, you will be familiar with 11-12 different teams, four different sub sets and 4 different salary/position formats.


[b:4753148be6][u:4753148be6]Rules:[/u:4753148be6][/b:4753148be6]

1 - Each Season will be preceded by a 3 Round draft

2 - Season II will start 1 month after Season I, Season III will start after Season I concludes and Season IV will start after Season II concludes.

3 - The draft order for each season will be:

Round I: 1-12
Round II: 12-1
Round III: 12-1

3a - The Draft order for Season II will be the reverse of Season I (so if you picked 1st in Season I, you will pick 12th in Season II).
3b - The Draft order for Season III will either be determined by the End of Season Results of Season I or will be a new lottery determined order.
3c - The Draft order for Season IV will either be determined by the End of Season Results of Season II, or will be the reverse of Season III

4 - The order of the subsets will be

NL Only
AL Only
1961-1990
1903-1959

NL Only will be 100m No DH because there is non in the NL

AL Only will be 100m DH - The AL uses a DH so shall we.

1961-1990 will be 120m DH - This will represent the introduction of the modern facets such as the DH, salary arbitration & Steinbrennerization (buying a championship).

1903-1959 will be 80m no DH - This will represent the fact that were was no DH during this era, and most ballplayers did not get much salary.

5 - All leagues will use 5/10/20 & frenzy

6 - Every subset will have 35 teams used (including 1903-1959 - see below). The last owner to pick in Round III (referred to as Owner X) will have the right to use whatever is leftover from the rest of the league (ie free rein in the FA Pool while everyone else will only use the FAs from their 3 treams).

7 - Trading is permitted, but with the following restrictions:

(a) during Pre-Season: [b:4753148be6]Must[/b:4753148be6] be on active roster. You can add a player you own from FA to your roster to trade to another owner, but you [b:4753148be6]must[/b:4753148be6] release a player of similar salary value, and cannot re-add that player until 24 hours after the trade (to give Owner X a chance to pick him up if he wants to)
(b) During Season: Only from active roster
(c) If you release the player you acquired, Owner X has the right to add him to his roster.

8 - Special Rule concerning 1903-1959 & 1961-1990 subsets.

To ensure that all subsets have the same # of teams (35), the 36th team from the 1961-1990 subset will be removed and added to the 1903-1959 subset (hence why 1903-59 is played after 1961-90).

[i:4753148be6]9 - Increase the Challenge Rule[/i:4753148be6]

(a) You [b:4753148be6]cannot[/b:4753148be6] pick the same team twice. So if you pick '61 Yankees in the AL Only season, you cannot pick them again in the 1961-90 season
(b) You must use a ballpark from one of your 3 teams
(c) Owner X can pick any ballpark that is unused from the subset.

10 - Divisions will be

Season I: 1/4/7/10, 2/5/8/11, 3/6/9/12
Season II-IV: We can do one of the following

(a) keep same divisions
(b) determine by W/L record of preceding season


* - Except for the last owner in Round III who will have 2 teams + free rein in the FA Pool post-autodraft.

[ArrylT]

[b:8fadf58cfc]Owners List:[/b:8fadf58cfc]

1 - ArrylT - NJ
2 - SteveAmes - VA
3 - LMBombers - DC
4 - rosenthm - IL
5 - FAaron - NY
6 - Hakmusic - PA
7 - goffchile - OH
8 - Ehlekev - ID
9 - Doctor_tax - TN
10 - Ldanred - FL
11 - Red Beards - Del
12 - Aray0113 - AZ

[ArrylT]

[b:c5f46c1f84]Commish Statement:[/b:c5f46c1f84]


First & foremost - welcome aboard & thanks for your interest and participation.

Before we begin - please be sure to re-read the rules and post any comments/concerns/suggestions you have in regards to them.

I am usually amenable to changes - so long as they have majority consent - and do not run counter to the theme I have in mind.

For example - Rules 2 & 3 are flexible. We do NOT need to start a season every month - we can figure out a schedule that is most convenient for the majority of the league. And if there is a better way to balance the draft order - I am all ears.

With the current draft order - It may very well be that the worst pick to have is #2 in the first round - since you end up with the last available team in Round III, while at least the owner picking last in Round III can scrounge through the leftovers.

The order in which the subsets is done - does not need to be NL Only, AL Only, 1961-90, 1903-59. 1903-59 DOES need to come after 1961-90, for the simple reason that we need that 36th team to join the 34 teams to balance it out at 35. Otherwise I just went with an order that I thought gave the best rotation from salary cap to salary cap.

My thanks to several owners (such as MightyMoose) whom I got inspiration for this theme.

[dlarkins]

thanks for organizing league

[Red Beards]

What is the Cap? 80mil, 100mil, 200mil?

found it 100mil for NL Only

[LMBombers]

Is the draft going to be on this thread or the original one in the ATG forum?

[STEPHENANDERSON 2]

Please list Pick III State. Lottery will run from Low to High

1 - ArrylT - NJ -709
2 - SteveAmes-VA - 104
3 -LM Bombers - DC - 081
4 - rosenthm - IL - 569
5 - FAaron - NY - 843
6 - Hakmusic - PA - 216
7 - goffchile-OH - 877
8 - Ehlekev-ID -236
9 - Doctor_tax - TN - 860
10 - Ldanred-Florida - 371
11 - Red Beards Del - 027
12 - Aray0113 - AZ - 473

If state had 2 with 3 numbers, did not use the midday.

so low to high are

1 - Red Beards Del - 027
2 - LM Bombers - DC - 081
3 - SteveAmes-VA - 104
4 - Hakmusic - PA - 216
5 - Ehlekev-ID -236
6 - Ldanred-Florida - 371
7 - Aray0113 - AZ - 473
8 - rosenthm - IL - 569
9 - ArrylT - NJ -709
10 - FAaron - NY - 843
11 - Doctor_tax - TN - 860
12 - goffchile-OH - 877


Someone double check me if they like

[STEPHENANDERSON 2]

[quote:e83eae26dd="LMBombers"]Is the draft going to be on this thread or the original one in the ATG forum?

Can someone give me a list of all the NL teams that will be used in season 1? Some of the early teams I am not sure of what league they are in.[/quote:e83eae26dd]

Randy... go to one of your teams you already are playing. Up on the "tool bar" is a tab called help. hit that tab and 3 sutabs will pop up, including "Player Set Browser." Click on that and it will open to all the sets, which will allow you to see all the teams broken down by subset.

[LMBombers]

NATIONAL LEAGUE
Team Ballpark
1906 Chicago Cubs West Side Park '06
1909 Pittsburgh Pirates Forbes Field '09
1911 New York Giants Polo Grounds '11
1915 Philadelphia Phillies Baker Bowl '15
1921 New York Giants* Polo Grounds '21
1924 Brooklyn Dodgers* Ebbets Field '24
1927 Pittsburgh Pirates* Forbes Field '27
1929 Chicago Cubs Wrigley Field '29
1934 St. Louis Cardinals Sportsman's Park '34
1934 New York Giants* Polo Grounds '34
1940 Cincinnati Reds Crosley Field '40
1946 St. Louis Cardinals Sportsman's Park '46
1950 Philadelphia Phillies Shibe Park '50
1953 Brooklyn Dodgers Ebbets Field '53
1955 Cincinnati Reds* Crosley Field '55
1957 Milwaukee Braves County Stadium '57
1959 Chicago Cubs Wrigley Field '59
1962 San Francisco Giants Candlestick Park '62
1964 Philadelphia Phillies* Connie Mack Stadium '64
1964 St. Louis Cardinals Busch Stadium '64
1965 Los Angeles Dodgers Dodger Stadium '65
1969 New York Mets Shea Stadium '69
1970 Chicago Cubs* Wrigley Field '70
1971 Pittsburgh Pirates Three Rivers Stadium '71
1975 Cincinnati Reds Riverfront Stadium '75
1977 Philadelphia Phillies Veterans Stadium '77
1977 Los Angeles Dodgers Dodger Stadium '77
1979 Pittsburgh Pirates* Three Rivers Stadium '79
1980 Montreal Expos Olympic Stadium '80
1982 Atlanta Braves* Fulton County Stadium '82
1984 Chicago Cubs* Wrigley Field '84
1984 San Diego Padres Jack Murphy Stadium '84
1986 New York Mets Shea Stadium '86
1986 Houston Astros Astrodome '86
1987 St. Louis Cardinals Busch Stadium '87

[Red Beards]

1 - Red Beards Del - 027 - Pit 1909
2 - LM Bombers - DC - 081
3 - SteveAmes-VA - 104
4 - Hakmusic - PA - 216
5 - Ehlekev-ID -236
6 - Ldanred-Florida - 371
7 - Aray0113 - AZ - 473
8 - rosenthm - IL - 569
9 - ArrylT - NJ -709
10 - FAaron - NY - 843
11 - Doctor_tax - TN - 860
12 - goffchile-OH - 877