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Postby JOELKING » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:08 pm

Yep, a "GAME PLAN" to beat up scott & jeep :) 8) :D
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Postby Jeepdriver » Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:17 pm

Personally I don't see that we need to keep the same team for the whole season. Perhaps make it where as we must keep them thru the first free agent period, that is thru the 95% stage.*

*your mileage may vary :wink:
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Postby Jeepdriver » Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:18 pm

[quote:73e36a76ba]Yep, a "GAME PLAN" to beat up scott & jeep[/quote:73e36a76ba]

...that book hasn't been written yet. :lol: :wink:
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Postby ArrylT » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:30 pm

Draft is indeed serpentine (1-12, 12-1).

I was not going to require owners keep the same team post-draft. Considering it is a 100m league, there isn't likely to be too much post-draft to frenzy for anyway. However if a majority would prefer some sort of restriction, that is fine by me.

I'm going to be pretty busy 3 of the next 4 days so I definitely do not mind waiting for dr. tax to return.
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Postby Eddie E » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:09 am

I understand where Taters is coming from. The person who has first pick (even in a serpentine draft) at the 1.0 mil level will also have first pick in the 2.0 mil level and each and every level. That means the guy with the lowest lottery pick will have the first pick of the cheapest guys, the first pick of the high priced super studs and the first pick of each and every level.

I have a solution that works out perfectly whereby each and every manager/gm gets the first pick of each round twice and gets the first or second pick of each level. It might appear complicated but it is very simple and I already have a chart drawn out with the draft order.
Here it is:

1.0 mil 2.0 mil 4.0 mil
1 12 2 11 3 10 4 9 5 8 6 7
2 11 3 10 4 9 5 8 6 7 7 6
3 10 4 9 5 8 6 7 7 6 8 5
4 9 5 8
5 8 6 7
6 7 7 6
7 6 8 5 etc etc
8 5 9 4
9 4 10 3
10 3 11 2 12 1 1 12 2 11 3 10
11 2 12 1 1 12 2 11 3 10 4 9
12 1 1 12 2 11 3 10 4 9 5 8

6.0 mil 8.0 mil Anyprice
7 6 8 5 9 4 10 3 11 2 12 1 7
8 5 9 4 10 3 11 2 12 1 1 12 8
9 4 10 3 11 2 12 1 1 12 2 11 9

etc etc etc

4 9 5 8 6 7 7 6 8 5 9 4 4
5 8 6 7 7 6 8 5 9 4 10 3 5
6 7 7 6 8 5 9 4 10 3 11 2 6

As you can see, other than the very last round, each team gets the first pick of a round twice and each team has either the first or second pick of a new level once. Very fair and evenly distributed draft order.

Of course, Arryl T. is in charge of this league so he has final say in all matters. I think it is good for any league to be able to discuss the rules it wants to play by but only one person can make final decisions. Majority rules usually doesnt work too well.
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Postby Eddie E » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:15 am

Of course, the best laid plans... I forgot that when you type up an orderly and neat outline in this forum that everything gets jumbled up and unable to keep in straight lines when you post your reply.

Do this at home to understand my charts:

1.0 mil

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12

round 2 of 1.0 mil

12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1

round 3 of 1.0 mil

2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
1

round 4 of 1.0 mil

11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1
12

and keep going. It might make more sense that way. Trust me, it works out as evenly as possible.
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Postby Taters37295 » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:40 pm

I don't quite follow, but I trust your logic. However, I doubt you are going to be able to set up the draft like that on Penn's website. I'm fine with the draft either way. The serpentine will probably work out just fine because the person who gets the first pick will also have the last pick in the next round so it will should even out and not be too much of a problem.
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Postby MoCrash » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:48 pm

I understand the logic, but I don't see it as significantly more of an advantage to those at the top of the draft order as would be the case in any other draft. In most cases of a live draft, players are going to be chosen from the highest ranks downward. That they are being segregated into pay ranges has little [i:d10ca2fce9]de facto[/i:d10ca2fce9] effect other than choosing within the lowest pay range first instead of later.

A straight serpentine draft is just fine. On another matter raised, the FA frenzy should be wide open and not require an owner to drop a player from the same pay range as the player obtained. This league wasn't set up as a pay-scale theme league, only a backwards draft one. Since we all look to consolidate rosters by having "value" subs, those sub-$1 million guys are not necessarily going to be dumped. To me, what may determine what FAs to pick up is not going to be the cheap guys, but how an owner will draft in the middle rounds -- whether to try to conserve cap space for higher-priced players in order to afford the remains above or build the team around those middle guys, irrespective of their price within the range.
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Postby JOELKING » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:06 pm

I dont see the logic what your suggestion Eddie, as far most drafts goes, its serpentine draft, until the last round is done, usaully, the middle gms picking gets the short end of the sick,however. i have seen the middle gms drafting and building a powerhouses teams, so i wouldnt worry either , you can always trade draft picks for future draft picks, its part of the planning when your drafting up a team...
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Postby JOELKING » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:12 pm

In addition, suppose its was normal draft, you still end up getting the pick where you are suppose too, example, team one has first pick overall, he then has all picks with odd numbers picking first, so it really dont matter either he can have the highest player pick in the first round, or the lowest, it still turns out being the same... look at it in another way , team 1 will pick the scabs in most draft from 21 to 26 ( and park pick) its just backwards thats all, no biggie difference.. :)
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