YIKES!!!! Shifting Sands Draft Thread

[bigmahon]

Latest version of the rule stipulates the need for 25 B.O. points (including the automatic 15 points for team name, manager, etc.). So I think we will all qualify. :wink:

[Mr Baseball World]

Everyone will easily get the points, actually already have. Actually Jack hits on Jackie as well as John, at least one if not two of the negro leaguers were named John, so Jack is worth three for the name alone, willie or bill or william is worth 5.

I will post point totals on Monday but I have already looked and confirmed that everyone currently has qualified for the points.

[modmark46]

ROUND 1
1.UncleNy - Hank Greenberg (AL)(Jewish DH)
2. MemphisJohn - Babe Ruth (last name begins with R)
3. DoctorTax1 - Willie Mays (Black, Negro League player)
4. Modmark - Sandy Koufax (Jewish SP - 1 BO Point)
5. MunichMan - Banks (NL)
6. Wockenfuss/Foggy - Larry Doby of American League (7 Negro league points - 1 for "D" in last name, 1 for HOF name match , 2 for playing pre 1954, and 3 points for playing in the Negro Leagues for the Newark Eagles)
7. He'sMeat - Rogers Hornsby
8. Big Mahon - Grover Cleveland Alexander
9. spicki17 - george brett
10. Ranger - Roy Campanella (7 points,1pt last name begins with 'C', 2 for pre-54, 3 for playing with Baltimore Eliite Giants, 1 pt for HOF match)
11. Giddyup - Babe Adams
12. MRBBW - Joe DiMaggio

ROUND 2
1. MRBBW - Mel Ott
2. Giddyup - Mickey Mantle
3. Ranger - Charlie Gehringer (1 BO point first name begins C)
4. spicki17 - hank aaron
5. Big Mahon - Yount
6. He'sMeat - E. Howard (negro) points? god only knows...
7. Wockenfuss/Foggy - Phil Weintraub (tribesman National League) - ZERO Buck Oneil Points
8. MunichMan - Gehrig
9. Modmark - A. Simmons (0 BO points)
10. DoctorTax1 - Frank Robinson (??? BO Points)
11. MemphisJohn - Kluszewski (1 BO point, Iron Glove)
12. UncleNy – Sandberg (NL) (can’t figure out Negro points)

ROUND 3
1. UncleNy – (AL) - Ripken
2. MemphisJohn - (AL) - Speaker
3. DoctorTax1 - (NL) - T. Brown SP
4. Modmark – (NL) - Ruelbach SP public proxy
5. MunichMan – (NL) - Waner 1B/DH
6. Wockenfuss/Foggy – (AL) - Nap Lajoie (1 point for the "L")
7. He'sMeat - (NL) - Fournier 1B
8. Big Mahon - (NL) - Zack Wheat (LF/RF/CF)
9. spicki17 - (AL) - ted williams
10. Ranger - (NL) - Stan The Man (1B, NL)
11. Giddyup - (NL) - JACK PFIESTER
12. MRBBW – (AL) - Yogi Berra


ROUND 4
1. MRBBW - (NL) Jackie Robinson
2. Giddyup - (AL) Roger Maris
3. Ranger - (AL) Al Rosen (Jewish Pick, 1B) - via proxy
4. spicki17 - (NL) jack clark
5. Big Mahon - (AL) Joe Jackson (DH)
6. He'sMeat - (AL) Jimmy Foxx (3b) hey, a b.o. point now that first name counts!
7. Wockenfuss/Foggy - (NL) Rick Reuschel (one Buck Point)
8. MunichMan - (AL) Lazzeri 2B
9. Modmark - (AL) - Carl Yastrzemski, DH
10. DoctorTax1 - (AL) - Sal Bando 3B (One Buck point)
11. MemphisJohn - (NL) - Erskine Mayer SP* (Jewish)
12. UncleNy – (NL) wilson, hack

ROUND 5
1. UncleNy – (AL) – Kerr, Dickie (SP)
2. MemphisJohn - (AL) - Goslin, LF, Iron Glove
3. DoctorTax1 - (NL) - Maddox N. SP
4. Modmark – (NL) - Camnitz, SP
5. Meat from MunichMan – (NL) - Snider CF
6. Wockenfuss/Foggy –(AL) Sam Crawford (iron glove)
7. He'sMeat - (NL) - Minarcin .50
8. Big Mahon - (NL) - L. Waner, OF (20's)
9. spicki17 - (AL) - billy pierce, SP (50's)
10. Ranger - (NL) - red ames ('11)
11. Giddyup - (NL) - fletcher ('11)
12. MRBBW – (AL) - W. Hernandez, RP (80's)

ROUND 6
1.Mrbbw (nl) - W. Fryman, RP (80's)
2.giddyup (al) - E. Collins, 2b (10's)
3.ranger (al) - C. Keller, OF (30's)
4.spicki17 (nl) - F. Alou, OF (60's)
5. bigmahon (al) - E. Cicotte, SP (10's)
6. hesmeat (al) - Gossage rp (70s) is there a goose with b.o. points? does turkey count?
7. wockenfuss (nl) - C. Short, SP (60's)
8. munichman (al) - J. Dykes, IF (20's) BY PROXY
9. modmark (al) - E. Killian, LH SP (00's)
10.dcotortax1(al) - B. Grich, IF (70's)
11.memphisjohn(nl) - C. Kirby, .50 SP
12.uncleny (nl) - G. Staley, .50 SP

ROUND 7
1. UncleNy – (AL) – Meusel, OF (20's)
2. MemphisJohn - (AL) - MERRITT sp/rp (60's)
3. DoctorTax1 - (NL) - Hickman, IF (70's)
4. Modmark – (NL) - Youngs, OF (20's)
5. MunichMan – (nl) Haller, C (60s)
6. Wockenfuss/Foggy –(AL) R. Jackson (70s)
7. He'sMeat - (NL) - koosman (60)
8. Big Mahon - (NL) - Sanguillen, C (70's)
9. spicki17 - (AL) - Eckersley, RP (90's)
10. Ranger - (NL) - Perranoski, RP (60's)
11. Giddyup - (NL) - Phillippe, SP (00's)
12. MRBBW – (AL) - T. Martinez, RP (80's)

ROUND 8
1.Mrbbw (NL) - T. Conroy, .50 SP
2.giddyup (AL) - Schiraldi, RP (80's)
3.ranger (AL) - Plank SP/RP (10's)
4.spicki17 (NL) - Lanier SP, (40's)
5. bigmahon (AL) - Baby Doll Jacobson, RF (20's)
6. hesmeat (AL) - J. Burnett, IF/OF (30's)
7. wockenfuss (NL) - Tom Seaver, SP (60's)
8. munichman (AL) - Barfield OF, (80's)
9. modmark (AL) - J. Tobin, OF (20's)
10.dcotortax1 (AL) - W. Horton, OF (60's)
11.memphisjohn (NL) - G. Garber, RP (70's)
12. Uncleny (NL) - Marquard, P (10's)

ROUND 9
1. UncleNy – (AL) – Joe Evans, OF (20's)
2. MemphisJohn - (AL) - Kaat, LSP (60's)
3. DoctorTax1 - (NL) - Cochrane, C (20's)
4. Modmark – (NL) - Cepeda, 1b (60's)
5. MunichMan – (NL) - E. Valentine, OF (80's) (BY PROXY)
6. Wockenfuss/Foggy – (AL) - Steve Barber SP (60s)
7. He'sMeat - (NL) - Post (nl) (50s)
8. Big Mahon - (NL) - Roebuck RP
9. spicki17 - (AL) - blanchard C
10. Ranger - (NL) - Kurowski 3B
11. Giddyup - (NL) - Mcovey
12. MRBBW – (AL) - Dugan

Round 10
1.Mrbbw (NL) - O'doul OF
2.giddyup (AL) - Hamilton .50 SP/RP
3.ranger (AL) - Averill OF
4.spicki17 (NL) - Buzhardt SP/RP
5. bigmahon (AL) - Russo SP/RP
6. hesmeat (AL) - Mclain SP
7. wockenfuss (NL) - Burgess C
8. munichman (AL) - Holtzman LH * SP Jew
9. modmark (AL) - Wyatt, RP (My Negro League Player)
10.dcotortax1 (AL) - speer
11.memphisjohn (NL) - tekulve
12. Uncleny (NL) - knight

ROUND 11
1. UncleNy – (AL) – Mossi rp
2. MemphisJohn - (AL) Dickey (c)
3. DoctorTax1 - (NL) - Bedroisan rp (80)
4. Modmark – (NL) - Allen 3b/dh (60)
5. MunichMan – (NL) - P Dean
6. Wockenfuss/Foggy – (AL) - C. Pascaul
7. He'sMeat - (NL) - McEnany
8. Big Mahon - (NL) - Shantz
9. spicki17 - (AL) - Vanglider
10. Ranger - (NL) - Humphreys
11. Giddyup - (NL) - Shamsky
12. MRBBW – (AL) - Wood

Round 12
1.Mrbbw (NL) - Davis
2.giddyup (AL) -Henke
3.ranger (AL) -Selkirk
4.spicki17 (NL) - Heintzelman
5. bigmahon (AL) - Nielsen
6. hesmeat (AL) - Stange
7. wockenfuss (NL) - "Pops" Stargell (proxy set on site)
8. munichman (AL) - Hildebrand
9. modmark (AL) - McAuliffe, 2b (60's)
10.dcotortax1 (AL) - Deberry
11.memphisjohn (NL) - Carroll
12. Uncleny (NL) –Mathewson, C

Round 13
1. UncleNy – (AL) – Narleski, RP (50's)
2. MemphisJohn - (AL) Dobson, SP/RP (60's)
3. DoctorTax1 - (NL) - Overall, SP/RP (00's)
4. Modmark – (NL) - Konstanty, RP (50's)
5. MunichMan – (NL) – Henry RP (50s)
6. Wockenfog/Fussy – (AL) - Don Baylor
7. He'sMeat - (NL) - Roberts RP my jew...and a pair of b.o. pts!
8. Big Mahon - (NL) - Royster
9. spicki17 - (AL) - Milt May
10. Ranger - (NL) - Mazeroski
11. Giddyup - (NL) - Snodgrass
12. MRBBW – (AL) - Zachary

Round 14 (EVEN TEMPLATE)
1.Mrbbw (NL) - Vance
2.giddyup (AL) - Bowens
3.ranger (AL) - Pesky
4.spicki17 (NL) - B. Butler
5. bigmahon (AL) - Pagliarulo
6. hesmeat (AL) - J. Sewell
7. wockenfuss (NL) - Lefferts
8. munichman (AL) - D Howell (RP)
9. modmark (AL) - Kubek
10.dcotortax1 (AL) - Burleson
11.memphisjohn (NL) - Eastwick
12. Uncleny (NL) – Walling

Round 15 (ODD TEMPLATE)
1. UncleNy – (AL) – Sullivan, Jr., C (40's)
2. MemphisJohn - (AL) Kell, IF (50's)
3. DoctorTax1 - (NL) - Arnovich, LF
4. Modmark – (NL) - Hiatt, C (70's)
5. MunichMan – (NL) – L. Walker, SP (70's)
6. Wockenfog/Fussy – (AL) B. Downing (DH and back-up C; not platoon C)
7. He'sMeat - (NL) - Borbon, RP (70's)
8. Big Mahon - (NL) - B. Miller, RP (60's)
9. spicki17 - (AL) - T. Fernandez, IF (80's)
10. Ranger - (NL) - A. Johnson, LF/RF
11. Giddyup - (NL) - D. Rice, C (50's)
12. MRBBW – (AL) - R. Carew, IF (70's)

Round 16 (EVEN TEMPLATE)
1.Mrbbw (NL) - Worrell, RP (80's)
2.giddyup (AL) - Brouhard, OF (80's)
3.ranger (AL) - Krause, SP (10's)
4.spicki17 (NL) - Power, 1b
5. bigmahon (AL) - Berg, C
6. hesmeat (AL) - Drago, RP (70's)
7. wockenfuss (NL) - Bahnsen, RP
8. munichman (AL) - Pasqua, OF/IF
9. modmark (AL) - Munson, C
10.dcotortax1 (AL) - J. Rice, OF
11.memphisjohn (NL) - Giusti, RP
12. Uncleny (NL) – McMahon, RP

Round 17 (ODD TEMPLATE)
1. UncleNy – (AL) – Powell, IF
2. MemphisJohn - (AL) Rizzuto, IF
3. DoctorTax1 - (NL) - Nicosia, C
4. Modmark – (NL) - Pagan, IF
5. MunichMan – (NL) – Freeman, RP
6. Wockenfog/Fussy – (AL) Quisenberry, RP
7. He'sMeat - (NL) - B. Thomson, OF/IF
8. Big Mahon - (NL) - K. Mitchell, OF/IF
9. spicki17 - (AL) - Sakata, IF
10. Ranger - (NL) - Demaree, SP
11. Giddyup - (NL) - D. Cater, OF
12. MRBBW – (AL) - D. Holland, OF

Round 18 (EVEN TEMPLATE)
1.Mrbbw (NL) - Roseboro, C
2.giddyup (AL) - Fingers, RP
3.ranger (AL) - Arroyo, RP
4.spicki17 (NL) - Danning, C
5. bigmahon (AL) - D. Hall, RP
6. hesmeat (AL) - Harshman, SP/RP
7. wockenfuss (NL) - Steinfeldt, IF
8. munichman (AL) - Gooch, C [color=red:1eff3d2731][b:1eff3d2731]SHOULD BE AN AL PICK[/b:1eff3d2731][/color:1eff3d2731]
9. modmark (AL) - M. Martin, RP
10.dcotortax1 (AL) - Scurry, RP
11.memphisjohn (NL) - Gilliam, IF [i:1eff3d2731](Negro League Player)[/i:1eff3d2731]
12. Uncleny (NL) – Jamieson, OF

Round 19 (ODD TEMPLATE)
1. UncleNy – (AL) – B. Robinson, IF
2. MemphisJohn - (AL) Pina, RP
3. DoctorTax1 - (NL) - Dayley, RP
4. Modmark – (NL) - Hughes, RP
5. MunichMan – (NL) – Harper, OF
6. Wockenfog/Fussy – (AL) Turner, IF
7. He'sMeat - (NL) - Covington, OF
8. Big Mahon - (NL) - J. Black, SP/RP [i:1eff3d2731](Negro League Player)[/i:1eff3d2731]
9. spicki17 - (AL) -
10. Ranger - (NL) -
11. Giddyup - (NL) -
12. MRBBW – (AL) -

[b:1eff3d2731]Round 20 - LAST ROUND OF LIVE DRAFT![/b:1eff3d2731]
1.Mrbbw (NL) -
2.giddyup (AL) -
3.ranger (AL) -
4.spicki17 (NL) -
5. bigmahon (AL) -
6. hesmeat (AL) -
7. wockenfuss (NL) -
8. munichman (AL) -
9. modmark (AL) -
10.dcotortax1 (AL) -
11.memphisjohn (NL) -
12. Uncleny (NL) –

[b:1eff3d2731]NOTE a player was drafted from the incorrect league by Munich Man in Round 18. [/b:1eff3d2731] * I guess he should re-do that pick. Hey, it's been a long draft, and we are all getting burned out, I think. But, the finish line is in sight! :)

[modmark46]

How many have looked at what their lineups will end up as by applying Foggy's rule? Here's mine:
[b:2158baef2c]VS RHP:[/b:2158baef2c]
Youngs - LF
Yaz - DH
Tobin - RF
Simmons - CF
McAuliffe - 2b
Kubek - SS
Hiatt - C
Cepeda- 1b
Allen, D. - 3b
Not too bad. At least I got Simmons hitting cleanup, although McAuliffe and Kubek batting 5 & 6 leave something to be desired.
[b:2158baef2c]VS LHP:[/b:2158baef2c]
Allen, D. - 3b
Cepeda - 1b
McAuliffe - 2b
Munson - C
Pagan - SS
Simmons - CF
Tobin - RF
Yaz - DH
Youngs - LF
Not wild about my 3-5 here, although Munson and Pagan aren't bad vs LH. McAuliffe in the three hole, however.... Uggh! :shock:

[STEPHENANDERSON 2]

Bando - 3B
Burleson - SS
Cochrane - C
Grich - 2B
Hickman - 1B
Horton - LF
Mays -CF
Rice - DH
Robinson - RF

Not to happy against Lefties, But could be very sweet in reversal vs righty with Robinson , Rice, Mays, and Horton in the cleanup.

[RangerJoe]

I accidentally picked and NL scrub as my last pick, and needed to pick an AL player. If someone could approve the drop, it would be much appreciated.

[MEAT]

ive got my team loaded and ready to draft, don't suppose Im in the east...is this shifty league setup yet foggy?

[MEAT]

lake's gone ranger...

[RangerJoe]

Much obliged. Here are the divisions and stadiums.


, 5, 9 must use the Fenway '67 UNCLE, MUNICHM, SPICKI17

2, 6, 10 must use League Park '34 MEMPHISJ, WOCKENFUSS, RANGER

3, 7, 11 must use Shibe Park '50 DOCTOR, MEAT, GIDDY

4. 8, 12 will use Candlestick '62 MODMARK, BIGM, MRBBW


EAST: UNCLE, MODMARK, MEAT, RANGER

CENTRAL: MEMHISJOHN, MUNICHM, BIGM, GIDDY

WEST: DOCTOR, WOCKENFUSS, SPICKI, MRBBBW

[MEAT]

drafted all ten pitchers, so not even sure who'll be playing where yet, but let's see what we've got o' the alphabet so far...

lh
foxx 3b
fournier 1b
hornsby 2b
howard c
post rf
sewell dh
snider cf
thomson lf
mystery ss

not too bad actually except for fox leading off...