LOTO FINALS - STADIUM DRAFT - cubs

[Jeepdriver]

I shot Riggo an e-mail 8)

[ArrylT]

Actually nothing is specified Round II only. It merely says that the draft order will be based on win %. 8)

It obviously makes more sense and is more fair to all involved to do it based on the W/L record of both seasons combined rather than just Season II alone. :)

However if you want to do things backwards & penalize the owners from League 2A for being in a league with better competition there is not much I can do about it.

Of course the fairest way of all is to do it random draft order. But again if you want League B to be rewarded because half the 2B league likely gave up (although I guess they cannot really be blamed considering how skilled JeepDriver & cristano are), then so be it. :roll:

Hopefully our commish will check in and confirm either way. :)

[cristano11]

arrylt, commish said this in a posting...
[quote:b19475f262]
Working non stop to cover my travel costs the past 2 weeks...If someone could post the Stadium Draft order for the finals League of LOTO, players may go ahead and pick their parks. If there are any teams with tied records in their own B League that made it, H2H is the tiebreaker. If there are tiebreakers from different leagues, use record against their own divisions in their respective leagues as tiebreakers.
If there are no tiebreakers after that, go ahead and pick your BP's and anyone can set up the league. I didn't make the Finals, so I cannot do it. Thanks and GL to all on their quest to be the 2006 LOTO Champion. R[/quote:b19475f262]

to me this clearly says that second records only are used, and that the first round is not considered for determining order for stadium draft... but im certainly not the commish...

[Jeepdriver]

[quote:d22c75fecf]...(although I guess they cannot really be blamed considering how skilled JeepDriver & cristano are), then so be it. :roll: [/quote:d22c75fecf]

Was that a cut on me? I haven't commented in any way on the draft order :?:

[ArrylT]

Jeep: Err not at all. I think everyone knows you are one of the toughest owners to compete against. I think the fact that you play in so many leagues & do so many themes might make your W/L % look lower than it deserves but I bet most owners by now know that if you're in their division they have a tough fight ahead of them! The Dunk Jeep league being a good example! :shock:

cristano: Nothing in that post or the rules posted in any of the numerous LOTO threads suggests to me that solely Round II w/l should be used. Considering robvoz has always done things in as fair & balanced a way possible, I would definitely feel comfortable in interpreting his rules to mean both league results should be used. :)

[ROBERTVOZZA]

Cristano has it correct. Finals league this year (Unlike in the past) - the order of Draft is based upon RD 2 Records and not the combined records.

Just tried to keep it very simple this year. And the 1, 4, 7 format is fine for Division alignment. I apologize that I didn't address that aspect of the Finals. Gotta' run. GL fellas. R

[Jeepdriver]

Happy Thanksgiving to all LOTO guys 8)

[ArrylT]

Ah bummer - but understandable. Obviously, other than Jeep & cristano the owners from League B need the extra boost in order to have any chance at winning. ;) And our Commish realized this - hence the draft order format. So in the end, while not the fairest thing for the league as a whole, I suppose it was only fair to the League B owners since otherwise without the extra help they would have been lambs to the slaughter. 8)

Considering the highest pick in the draft by a League A owner is 4th and then there is 4 at the bottom of the draft, it should be obvious that if a League A owner wins that we overcame tougher obstacles! Thats alright, unlike the owners from League B - we're up to the tougher challenge and don't need outside help to win! 8) :P

Anyways glad this has been resolved for good. Kudos to the Commish for checking in and clarifying! Will check back tomorrow to see if RiggoDrill has made his park selection. :)

[durantjerry]

I know I welcome and probably will need any legally come-by boost to my title chances when forced to compete against such a distinguished group. If league #1 records were counted, I might have only had the second choice of stadiums and not the first.

[ROBERTVOZZA]

We had 3 rounds, but only 24 teams. So to get to the Finals round, it basically had to be combined records of BOTH RD 1 and 2. But with a 48 TEAM SINGLE ELIMINATION 3 ROUND TOURNAMENT, it wasn't required - AND is definitely a lot less work.

But I like the idea of a standard 1st Round, allowing everyone to play to their strengths. Good records in the 2nd round with unique stadiums, but DIFFERENT CAP(Next Year, I am going to make RD 2 60M and drop the 100M Cap), motivates players to play very hard to get the distinguished 1st or high pick for stadiums in RD 3(Finals Round) - Which will be 80M CAP next Year - also with Unique Stadiums.

At this level of competition, I don't think you can say either league in Round 2 this year was easier or harder. But it is is just the way it fell together.

All that really matters in a Tournament (Or any competition for that matter) is that the rules are the same for everyone and that in the 1st round everyone has an equal chance to be one of the 6 teams from their respective Leagues to make the 2nd round. Same thing for round 2.

I just like the single elimination rule because it is simpler and not really debateable. You either make it or you're out. I hope there are not any complaints about the tiebreakers.

Of course, I am open to ANY suggestions by ANY of the members of the LOTO family.

I'd have to say that this year's Tour went much more smoothly than the 24 team Tour last year - especially with the assistance of a number of players.

I still plan to use simple AD formats with the same high level of competition and expect that the Tour could actually grow to more players and a bigger field (At least in the 1st Round.)

I hope this year's Tour has been as enjoyable for everyone here as it has been for me - even tho I have been eliminated in RD 2 for the 2nd straight year. :o :wink:

GL to all in the Finals.

BTW, I don't know where Riggo disappeared to. I play in the Pepperdine League with him and nobody could locate him to play for 6 weeks. Hopefully, he will turn up soon and will be able to play without holding everyone up. In the past, I had always had the backup plan - That if anyone couldn't play or dropped out for ANY reason, that their spot would go to the next best record in the prior round.

I am ultra busy thru the Xmas Holidays, but will be checking in periodically late at nite or early before work.

Robert