Time for another hall-of-fame vote

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Time for another hall-of-fame vote

Postby baracus68 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:01 pm

Taking a page from Outta Leftfield, who got a fun Back-to-the-'80s Hall of Fame ballot going last year (http://forums-beta.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=40581), I decided to post the just-released list of players on the new Hall of Fame Ballot.

Last year, in a vote that foreshadowed the actual vote, the only guy to make the cut with the BTT80s crowd was Sutter (though Blyleven, Gossage, Rice, and Trammel got some considerable support, too). Let's see what happens this year. Below is the list. The rule is to name as many as 10 guys on your ballot. (It's possible to submit a blank ballot, too, if you don't think anybody deserves to get in. Of course, with Dante Bichette on the ballot, I don't expect this option to come up.)

Harold Baines, Albert Belle, Dante Bichette, Bert Blyleven, Bobby Bonilla, Scott Brosius, Jay Buhner, Ken Caminiti, Jose Canseco, Dave Concepcion, Eric Davis, Andre Dawson, Tony Fernandez, Steve Garvey, Rich "Goose" Gossage, Tony Gwynn, Orel Hershiser, Tommy John, Wally Joyner, Don Mattingly, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Paul O'Neill, Dave Parker, Jim Rice, Cal Ripken Jr., Bret Saberhagen, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, Devon White, Bobby Witt.
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Postby LMBombers » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:10 pm

Just say no to the steriod boys Caminiti, Canseco and McGwire.

I would say yes to: Blyleven, Gossage, Lee Smith, Ripken, Gwynn & Trammell.

How did Bichette, Caminiti, Buhner & Brosius get on this list? :?
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Postby UGLYJERRY » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:16 pm

Here is my list according to deserving.

1. Tony Gwynn - Best pure hitter since Carew
2. Cal Ripken Jr. - Saved baseball as far as I am concerned
3. Mark McGwire - Nothing proven
4. Alan Trammell - It will be tough for him since Cal is a lock.
5. Andre Dawson - Extremely underrated.
6. Goose Gossage - If Sutter is in he deserves to be in.
7. Jack Morris - BIG game pitcher.
8. Don Mattingly - Even though he is a Yankee, dominant in his prime.

Terrible Omission - Sweet Lou Whitaker - King of 2nd baseman in the 80's

Just my opinions

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Postby Yellow_Dog » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:54 pm

My list...

1. Tony Gwynn...he hit .394 in 1994!!!!
2. C. Ripken ...no brainer
3. M. McGwire ... 583 HRs is hard to ignore.
4. B. Blyleven ... Circle me Bert
5. A. Dawson ... I like the 8 gold gloves
6. T. John ... If I'm putting Bert on the card John probably belongs too
7. G. Gossage ... 301 Saves

Just missed:

Mattingly-4 dominant seasons, but that bad back killed his chances
D. Parker - 2712 Hits, 1493 RBIs
J. Rice - similar numbers to Parker
Morris - 3.90 ERA is pretty high
Canseco - 462 HRs, 1407 RBIs tough to ignore, but I will
Orel - Not enough wins, but how about 1988. Cy Young, NLCS MVP, WS MVP
Bobby Witt - Led the leagues in walks 3 times. Gotta love that OBP. Oh wait, he was a pitcher!
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Postby m1aman » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:43 pm

canseco...40/40
goose...saves
mattingly..best hitter in his prime
mcgwire...583
murphy.... back to back mvps
morris...great workhorse
ripken...duh
lee smith...saves
gwynn...avg
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My ballot

Postby The Conndor » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:46 am

Tony Gwynn
Andre Dawson
Cal Ripken
Lee Smith
Bert Blyleven
Goose Gossage
Jim Rice

In no particular order, just one guy's opinion.

The best part of the ballot every year for me is trying to figure out how some of these guys got on the ballot in the first place.
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Postby honestiago1 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:58 am

Bert Blyleven--GLARING omission for the hall; shoulda already been in.
Andre Dawson--speed/power, and many years among top 5 players in the game.
Rich "Goose" Gossage--best closer of his era
Tony Gwynn--duh
Orel Hershiser--200+ wins, and scoreless streak, plus great in playoffs
Mark McGwire--juise or not, was productive, even though injured
Jim Rice-too good for too many years
Cal Ripken Jr.--duh #2
Lee Smith--all time save leader for many years; did it with multiple teams
Alan Trammell--overshadowed by Ripken and Ozzie, but just as good many years
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Postby goula2 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:26 pm

Gwynn
Ripken
Murphy
Rice
Blyleven
Conception
Gossage
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Postby gmac94 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:31 pm

Bert Blyleven, Andre Dawson, Tony Gwynn, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Jim Rice, Cal Ripken Jr., Alan Trammell
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Postby jsam9801 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:45 pm

Gossage (see Bruce Sutter)
Rice (.382 HRs, 1451 Rbis, .298 pre-juice over 14 years)
Alan Trammell (not sure why he gets no love)
Bert Blyleven (288 wins, over 3500ks, why not?)
Tony Gwynn (used to run like a hot dog, now just eats 'em)
Mark McGwire (hate to say it, 583 hrs, juice not banned at time)
Jack Morris (porn stache and all, he was the best '80s pitcher)
Cal Ripken Jr. (no brainer)

Also:

Ron Santo (337 homers, great obp and 3b)
Dwight Evans (385 homers, gold gloves, ozzie is in for defensive prowess, how did Dewey fail to get 5%?

:mrgreen:
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