more stats for waiver wire...

more stats for waiver wire...

Postby bomp helium » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:48 pm

hello:

there are two stats missing when I go to look at players available to pick up:

for hitters, I would like to see "runs scored"...this is probably the game's fundemental statistic, so I'd like to have that information easily available...

for pitchers, I would like to see Home Runs Allowed...

Here's hoping the nice SOM folks will consider adding these stats to the waiver wire...
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Postby Stoney18 » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:41 pm

Not to down play suggestions but how does runs scored help with selecting players for Strat?
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Postby Roscodog » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:32 am

I agree with the HR's allowed, but am also puzzled by the runs scored.
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Postby Stoney18 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:17 am

Wouldn't you still need to calculate something like HR's allower per inning?

Two pitchers who gave up 12 HR's would look dramatically different based on the # of innings they pitched.

The good card readers will calculate that. I'm a little lazy and use the ratings disk.
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Postby frog17 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:00 pm

I am not bothered so much by runs scored not being on the waiver wire because often times a guy who is not the greatest of run scorers in real life can score a lot of runs in strat, depsning on how that player is used.

I would, however like to see runs scored added in the left/right split stats screen. Curious to see how my top of the order guys are being driven in from different types of pitchers. Could possibly affect lineup changes.
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Postby bomp helium » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:10 pm

if you must know...

it would be nice to sort by RUNS so i can create my own Accurometer stats:

RAC, Runs Accounted For, which is RUNS+RBI...a simple way to sort and distinguish sleeper 5-tool players who are likely to hit for average and power in a timely manner and also run well...Abreu, Sheffield and Mays would be prototypes...

I would also like the following stats, but the raw data isn't easily available (short of transcribing box scores), that I know of (although I haven't really had time to look):

BT, Bases Touched, a measure of each and every base touched, whether by HIT, ERROR, HBP, WP, SB, PB, BALK, GB, FB, FC or any other means...these are players who just get the job done, hustling their way from one base to the next and then scoring, covered in dirt...Pete Rose would be the prototype...if he walked, stole second, went to third on a short PB, and scored on a short FB, he would be credited with 4 BT...

BAC, Bases Accounted For, a measure of how many runners advance how many bases during a hitter's at-bat, whether by HIT, ERROR, HBP, WP, SB, PB, BALK, GB, FB, FC or any other way...the hitter is credited for every base that every runner advances during his at-bat, measuring his fundemental effectiveness as a hitter...this stat is weighted towards "clutch" hits, as a bases-empty double earns 2 BAC (the hitter advanced 2 bases), while a bases-loaded double could earn 8 BAC (3 runners advanced 6 bases and the hitter 2)...prototypes would be Pujols, Ortiz and Ramirez, guys who just crush the ball, but there are also the crafty Larry Walker-types who in addition to crushing the ball also do the little things...these are the guys who win games and titles...

these are fundamental barometers for the game. it's bout scoring more runs than the other guy. the team that scores more runs gets the W.

the only thing missing from the formula is a certain aspect of OBP that is important and perhaps overlooked...BAC (above) rewards each Base Advanced equally, i.e., from 1B to 2B being valued the same as from 3B to Home or Home to 1B...in fact all bases are not created equal...Home is the most important of course: you don't get 3/4 of a run for getting to 3B...1B is also pivotal, because the player who arrives there without causing an out not only is 1/4 of the way from scoring, but that player has also "extended the rally", i.e., advanced the lineup, allowing the high-BAC, high-salary sluggers near the top of the lineup more opportunities to hit with more runners on base...

there. I've declared my intellectual property. copyright 2007 GM.
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Postby barney811 » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:36 am

Helium, seems like a lot of hot air to me........

You score a run because the next guy in the lineup did his job. Knowing runs scored in real life tells you the guys behind him were valuable.
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