Can Anyone Explain How Mike Cameron Gave Up a Double in CF ?

[BRIANSIELSKI]

[quote:65edf8a2bc]But I'm also taking this over to the "Ask Bernie" page. [/quote:65edf8a2bc]

Where is the "ask Bernie" page? I'm having a problem getting to my team from my computer at home (phone modem) and I need to bring it up to his attention.

Thanks,

Doc

[Ninersphan]

How do you get a throwing error on an OF play?? The only errors I know of are on the fielding chart. Now it's been awhile since I've played the board game, but I don't remember there being any seperate chart for OF throwing errors. They do not have the seperate rating like a catcher does. If the error doesn't occur as a result of the X chart reading, which it can't in this case, because there is no way for the double to occur on that chart then there is something wrong.

BTW none of the Rare Plays result in a double.

[Detroit-Tigers]

http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewforum.php?f=32

I assume this is where you post for Bernie.

Am I missing something here?

Cano gets a 6- DOUBLE(cf) . Isn't there then a check to see if there is a error? Can't the error result in Cano taking third and stretching it out to home?

[Ninersphan]

[quote:9a1b040dfa]Cano gets a 6- DOUBLE(cf) . Isn't there then a check to see if there is a error?[/quote:9a1b040dfa]

No, the only time there is an error check is on a [b:9a1b040dfa]cfX[/b:9a1b040dfa] result. The only thing that happens when a [b:9a1b040dfa]DOUBLE[/b:9a1b040dfa] result comes up is that the runner can try to advance againts the CF arm, you add or subtract the arm rating to the runners running rating and roll a 20 sided die if you roll the modified rating or under the runner is safe if you roll over the runner is thrown out trying to stretch the double.

Now again, I haven't played the board game in about 8 years, and maybe there is a rule about the throw roll that I'm forgetting, but that's how I always remember it.

I'lll look for it tonight when I get home from work (and probably find it too) to see if I'm mistaken.

In the meantime here's a link with the rules and NOWHERE is there mention of a possible error when thowing the ball from the outfield trying to cut down a runner attempting to stretch a DOUBLE, or SINGLE for that matter.
[url]http://www.rsbl.org/somrules.htm[/url]

[Mean Dean]

Throwing errors for OF are a computer game thing.

[Ninersphan]

[quote:48c5bc436a="DeanTSC"]Throwing errors for OF are a computer game thing.[/quote:48c5bc436a]

There is your answer then.

Yet another reason why Strat should let TSN publish all the rules here on the site.

[Valen]

[quote:0d4927349f]How do you get a throwing error on an OF play?? [/quote:0d4927349f]
You have to remember we are using super advanced rules and not advanced rules. So your advanced fielding chart goes out the window in exchange for the more complicated super advanced fielding chart and rules. Using the super advanced rules there are additional possibilities. Plus there is the "rare play" feature mentioned by someone earlier that may have come in to play. In the super advanced world there are also rules that allow for an error to occur on a throw when an OFers arm is being challenged. I do not have those rules in front of me but I do not think that had any relationship to a fielders range rating.

[Ninersphan]

Valen I looked at the Super advanced charts, I have them right in front of me, in the board game using the SA charts there is NO WAY a 1 in CF on a card reading of [b:17353ae01b]DOUBLE[/b:17353ae01b] can commit an error, even on the Rare Play. The rare play's all result in outs in fact they are usually double plays.

Check the rules link I posted as well.

It is strictly a computer rule as was posted above

[cummings2]

[quote:1116ea6a5b="Detroit-Tigers"][quote:1116ea6a5b="Detroit-Tigers"]Cano hit a double, Cameron dropped the ball and Cano legged it out into home.[/quote:1116ea6a5b]

Wow- how does C2 get credit for what I already pointed out?

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Go Yankees.[/quote:1116ea6a5b]

:lol:

D-T... you really crack me up :lol:

Thanks for the good laugh to start the day :D

[BRIANSIELSKI]

I play the computer version of the board game. I've had hits, and when I've tried to stretch into extra bases ... throwing errors have occured. (These errors occured AFTER I made the choice to advance the runner.)

That seems to support the Cano double error. It works like the computer version of the board game.

Doc