For BernieH and would appreciate veteran feedback as well!!

[ANDREWLEVITAN]

It seems to me that the following are great weaknesses in the game:
1)Not being able to choose lineups in individual games based on pitching match-ups. For instance , if you are facing a 4R rhp followed by a 4L rhp, it makes no sense to have the same lineup vs. both pitchers.
2)Having all switch hitters always bat opposite the pithcer's arm i.e. vs. RHP a switch hitter always bats lefty, vs a LHP a switch hitter always bats righty; why would I want a switch hitter to bat right handed against a lefty pitcher who is 6R?

I would appreciate any feedback about how to deal with the above situations!

Finally, HAL obviously has a bug.. Last nite my SS got hurt, and the following game HAL batted Abraham Nunez cleanup, on a team that has Manny, Howard, A. Jones, and Ross. Thanks!!!!

[geekor]

[quote:e1c622c126]1)Not being able to choose lineups in individual games based on pitching match-ups. For instance , if you are facing a 4R rhp followed by a 4L rhp, it makes no sense to have the same lineup vs. both pitchers.[/quote:e1c622c126]

a) what would stop someone from putting in his 4r then his 4L pitcher, only to switch them around last minute?
b) honestly I don't get it. Would you take out Manny from your lineup because the pitchers is a 4R? Unless your team is 15 $2.3 million dollar players, your hitters hit much better than their under 1 mil scrubs.

[quote:e1c622c126]2)Having all switch hitters always bat opposite the pithcer's arm i.e. vs. RHP a switch hitter always bats lefty, vs a LHP a switch hitter always bats righty; why would I want a switch hitter to bat right handed against a lefty pitcher who is 6R? [/quote:e1c622c126]

because that is what Switch hitters do. That is what makes reverse pitchers strong coincidently. If the SH batter L vs a L, which card does he use then? He is a SH for that reason. In real baseball a SH doens't go, this go is a 6R. A SH always switches, that is his his definition.

[durantjerry]

1)I have never seen what the big deal is regarding a new line up vs the reverse pitcher. There is just not enough $$$ to go around to make a big difference as far as the personel you would use to face a reverse pitcher. You may want to tweak the order a little, but I'm not even sure if I would be doing that, as I don't do it now when I can. To say that's a major problem is way off base IMO.
2)You may not want the switchhitters to bat opposite, but as stated above, that's what they do 99.99% of the time.

[ANDREWLEVITAN]

OK, maybe not a major problem, just an annoyance. An example: I have 4 switch hitters on my team, then 3 lefties, 2 righties. Last nite I faced Pedro in the cell, with his # sign HR's against right handed hitters. My switch hitters could not bat righty, and as a result Pedro was untouchable. Furteher more, I could not stack my lineup with righties, because the next righty was a 4R.

[BRIANSIELSKI]

[quote:6de4956980]Finally, HAL obviously has a bug.. Last nite my SS got hurt, and the following game HAL batted Abraham Nunez cleanup, on a team that has Manny, Howard, A. Jones, and Ross. Thanks!!!! [/quote:6de4956980]

Actually, I'd like to read comments on this. I've had similar experinces when I jsut say What the fluck is HAL doing. Batting a 0.5M player in the #3 spot!!!!

Doc

[Roscodog]

DOC,

I've made several posts on this. (HAL putting certain players in spots in the lineup where they don't belong.) See my post HAL STILL STUPID

[Mean Dean]

[quote:d2ed4fb0c0]It seems to me that the following are great weaknesses in the game:
1)Not being able to choose lineups in individual games based on pitching match-ups. For instance , if you are facing a 4R rhp followed by a 4L rhp, it makes no sense to have the same lineup vs. both pitchers. [/quote:d2ed4fb0c0]Fair enough, although you've identified the wrong solution to the problem. Adding lineups for Games 1/2/3 would create situations where the best strategic move is to set your pitcher and lineup at the last possible moment. This would contribute nothing to the game, other than making everyone's life more difficult. The better solution is to add lineup options for "reverse" pitchers, which is in fact part of the PC game, and I believe Bernie has said he does plan to add it to the TSN game.

[quote:d2ed4fb0c0] Last nite my SS got hurt, and the following game HAL batted Abraham Nunez cleanup, on a team that has Manny, Howard, A. Jones, and Ross.[/quote:d2ed4fb0c0]
Fair enough; that shouldn't happen.

[quote:d2ed4fb0c0]Having all switch hitters always bat opposite the pithcer's arm i.e. vs. RHP a switch hitter always bats lefty, vs a LHP a switch hitter always bats righty; why would I want a switch hitter to bat right handed against a lefty pitcher who is 6R?... An example: I have 4 switch hitters on my team, then 3 lefties, 2 righties. Last nite I faced Pedro in the cell, with his # sign HR's against right handed hitters. My switch hitters could not bat righty, and as a result Pedro was untouchable. Furteher more, I could not stack my lineup with righties, because the next righty was a 4R.[/quote:d2ed4fb0c0]
Okay, you don't understand baseball. The "versus righties" portion of your hitter's cards represent how they have hit batting from the left side, against righty pitchers. The "versus lefties" portion of their cards represent how they have hit batting from the right side, against lefty pitchers. You have no idea whatsoever how he would have done had he hit righty against righties, or lefty against lefties. That level of performance is completely unknown, and not represented in the cards. You want to take how the guy hit against pitchers who throw from the opposite side as Pedro, while batting from the opposite side that you want him to bat against Pedro, and use that performance level as his performance level against Pedro. Do you see how this doesn't work?

[dennisfs561]

The reverse pitchers lineup option would be an excellent addition. Did Bernie indicate a time frame on this happening? Could it be added to future 2007 and ATG III leagues ( and whatever else)-- or would it have to wait on new card sets?

[teepack]

The only way you could really accomplish this would be to have a deadline for when your starting pitchers are locked into that night's game (i.e., you would have to set your starters by 5 p.m. ET, so that your opponent could them come in and adjust his lineups accordingly). But if you do that, then you are requiring managers to check in to the site at least twice a day (once to set their starting pitchers, and then once after 5 p.m. to set their batting lineups. I think that would require too much for some managers.

[blue turtle]

I think a realism factor is also present. Granted the game is a simulation, but it is simulating a real thing. No player goes around with a 8R on their jersey so that a manager benches Jim Thome because he's so much better against righties. Likewise, how many switch hitters go the "wrong way" to face a pitcher? Almost none. There is definitely a limitation to computer programming and micro-managing, but even if I was playing in a home card league, I would expect league rules to require a switch hitter to hit opposite hand to the pitcher because that is just how it is.