When did Clemente become all the rage?

Postby nevdully's » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:57 pm

I can't get him to hit .280 even in a platoon role. Give me Meusel every time.
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Postby dacelo » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:22 pm

With only 9 games to go and no chance of redeeming a poor season, I don’t mind jinxing The Great One’s great season.

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS BA SLG OBP
142 600 93 211 25 14 19 76 22 87 2 2 .352 .535 .374

Home field was Fenway ’67 and he batted lead off against both righties and lefties. I don’t mind his sluggishness or low OBP as much as his rally-ending tendency to gbA. He had only 9 games of injuries - a couple of the games he missed were post-injury rests. I believe in the re-injury theory and suspect that Clemente has high re-injury potential!
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Postby Hack Wilson » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:29 pm

Having waxed nostalgic on Clemente, I'd take Ellis Valentine and his power and -5 arm any time.
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Postby Play By The Rules » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:21 am

Clemente is actually quite comperable to Valentine (much better vs. LHP, Valentine has much better OBP vs. RHP) for almost 2 mil less!
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Postby OdysseyTigger » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:31 am

[quote="Munich_Man"][quote:b257c11a53] OT, you forgot slooow. he's a waste of a draft card slot, if you ask me... :wink:

Him and Meusel...

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You are absolutely right, MM. He is also ever so slow. Why on the 70 or so teams I've had him on, I don't think he's EVER stolen a base! ...

...and don't get me started on Meusel! :wink:
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Postby PJ Axelsson » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:50 am

What I want to know is when did Trammell become all the rage? I've been unable to get him my last two autodrafts, and I'm listing him 3rd!!!

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Postby cplake » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:50 am

Quote: "I believe in the re-injury theory and suspect that Clemente has high re-injury potential!"

Not to change the subject (great discussion by the way), but I do notice that some players (Rickey is one) DO get re-injured in the very next game or two more than others. How can this be? Does another injury get placed on their card in a high probablility slot (5-6-7-8, etc.)? If not, then it's hard for me to believe that the rolls are always random.

Is this stuff just my imagination or does anybody else believe in the re-injury theory besides decelo & I?

If this takes off, I promise to move to it's own thread...... :)
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Postby raslavens » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:52 pm

There's some pretty signficant anecdotal data to suggest that players who've been injured recently have a higher probability of re-injury, but it's never been substantiated statistically.
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Postby OdysseyTigger » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:10 pm

the identical leagues experiment was run a while ago to test that as well as duplicate injuries to the same player across leagues and some other sorts of universal rolls or results that were perceived to be questionable

no support for any sort of decision element beyond chance was found
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Postby Munich_Man » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:48 pm

I believe the reinjury thory is simply a matter of selective memory or notice. Nobody remarks on the hundreds of times players are not injured or only injured once, but when the occasional injury followed by reinjury does happen, it sticks out. That's why plane crashes get such big news coverage, because they happen so seldom. It's definitely the exceptioin not the norm.

As OT mentioned the Identical leagues (although only one season, albeit 12 teams) showed no corellation.

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