1969 LIVE DRAFT 80 MIL DH - LEAGUE CHAT

[kenhutchings]

[quote:9e745d489d="PM770"]Are you certain you had Brett on your draft list?

The rules say the that when you miss on a player, "you get the next highest priced player [b:9e745d489d]that wasn't taken by any other team"[/b:9e745d489d] (emphasis mine).

I would hate to think that all this time I've been employing an auto-draft strategy that was based on mis-information.[/quote:9e745d489d]

I did have Brett on my draft list, but per the instructions our keepers were supposed to be listed at the BOTTOM, so he was number 25 on my draft list. I surmise that two other managers were interested in Mike Schmidt and had him ranked high in their drafting priority; one of them got Schmidt, but the other one got the next highest ranked third baseman, George Brett, because their ranking for the third baseman was so much higher than mine. I forget who I ended up getting (I think it might have been Bill Madlock, but I don't remember). Anyway, we shuffled our players around during waivers and I eventually got Brett back on my team (ended up with his 1977 season).

In the case of one keeper, who is likely a high value player, that player likely should have been listed at the TOP of the draft list. When a number of players are being drafted, such as we're doing in this league, in all likelihood the players that we're going to be competing for are priced at >$1 M and weren't drafted, and if that is the case, then that is why ranking the drafted players 11-25 hasn't caused any problems in the past. The chances of a George Scott/Clete Boyer scenario that I indicated in my previous post, while possible, is likely remote.

Now, have I dazzled you will brilliance, or baffled you with BS?

:? :?

[pkwmati]

According to the rules, it wouldn't matter where you listed Brett. If Team A had Schmidt #1 and Team B had Schmidt #2, Team B would get the highest priced undrafted player at 3B. With Brett at #25 on your list, he would be a drafted player and ineligible to be placed.

The other owner must have forgotten that you were keeping Brett or was trying to pull a fast one.

Am I misreading the rules? Isn't that the way it works?

[kenhutchings]

I stand (actually I'm sitting) corrected. I re-read the rules, and you are absolutely correct. If just one team has a claim on any player, regardless of where they are ranked, they are entitled to that player. Thus, someone in the previous league must have listed Brett in error.

I've been through the auto-draft about eight or nine times, and now I have a better understanding of how it works.

You know why it's not wise to tell me a joke on Saturday? Because I'll laugh in Church on Sunday.

:lol: :lol:

[Risden]

[quote:b468f3a513="kenhutchings"]I stand (actually I'm sitting) corrected. I re-read the rules, and you are absolutely correct. If just one team has a claim on any player, regardless of where they are ranked, they are entitled to that player. Thus, someone in the previous league must have listed Brett in error.

I've been through the auto-draft about eight or nine times, and now I have a better understanding of how it works.

You know why it's not wise to tell me a joke on Saturday? Because I'll laugh in Church on Sunday.

:lol: :lol:[/quote:b468f3a513]

No problems! We're here for fun and an escape from reality, right? :lol:

[pkwmati]

Hey gang. something weird is happening at the draft site.

It is showing me as up at pick #82, but Jeigenauer has NOT made pick #81 yet.

Whats going on? It can't be due to the time limit passing because that has happened dozens of times throughout the draft.

[Risden]

[quote:261300a15e="PM770"]Hey gang. something weird is happening at the draft site.

It is showing me as up at pick #82, but Jeigenauer has NOT made pick #81 yet.

Whats going on? It can't be due to the time limit passing because that has happened dozens of times throughout the draft.[/quote:261300a15e]

I just now noticed that issue. I tried to fix it as an administrator, but I could not figure out the problem.

ugrant - do we contact tech support?

John E - did you accidentally skip your turn?

[Red Beards]

I would suggest having Jeigenauer make his pick and see if it gets back in sync. As long as PM770 doesn't make a pick until J does then nothing bad should happen :wink:
But maybe we should record our picks so far just in case :shock: :D

[toshiro]

Here is the pick list:

1 1 GGROVER15 McCovey, Willie* 1b-2e14 13.35 2007-12-26 20:13:58
1 2 UGRANT Jackson, Reggie* rf-2(-4)e13 12.8 2007-12-26 21:41:47
1 3 REDBEARDS Aaron, Hank rf-1(-2)e6/ 1b-4e25 10.11 2007-12-27 00:59:25
1 4 HFSMART Robinson, Frank rf-2(+1)e4/ 1b-3e22 11.27 2007-12-27 19:12:54
1 5 JLAW Petrocelli, Rico ss-2e16/ 3b-2e65 10.64 2007-12-28 10:09:33
1 6 IDANRED Wynn, Jimmy cf-3(-1)e6 10.13 2007-12-28 14:30:23
1 7 KENHUTCHINGS Clemente, Roberto rf-1(-5)e7/ cf-3e7 10.16 2007-12-28 22:29:03
1 8 TOSHIRO Bonds, Bobby rf-2(-4)e9/ cf-2e9/ lf-2e9 8.2 2007-12-29 01:43:06
1 9 JEIGENAUER Bando, Sal 3b-2e24 8.98 2007-12-29 12:23:18
1 10 PM770 Howard, Frank lf-4(+3)e7/ 1b-4e30/ rf-4e7 7.22 2007-12-29 18:55:20
1 11 CF17 Powell, Boog* 1b-3e8 10.26 2007-12-31 09:05:46
1 12 RISDEN Killebrew, Harmon 3b-4e35/ 1b-4e5 8.78 2007-12-31 09:10:03
2 13 RISDEN Agee, Tommie cf-1(-3)e6/ rf-1e6 8.02 2008-01-01 10:57:04
2 14 CF17 Perez, Tony 3b-4e33 4.83 2008-01-01 11:00:04
2 15 PM770 Bench, Johnny c-1(-4)e4,T-7(pb-5) 7.61 2008-01-01 11:35:17
2 16 JEIGENAUER Blair, Paul cf-1(-1)e6 8.64 2008-01-01 11:43:39
2 17 TOSHIRO Allen, Dick 1b-4e25 7.84 2008-01-01 16:20:03
2 18 KENHUTCHINGS Alou, Matty* cf-2(+2)e8 4.44 2008-01-01 16:25:41
2 19 IDANRED Stargell, Willie* lf-4(-4)e9/ 1b-4e18/ rf-4e9 8.04 2008-01-01 23:03:48
2 20 JLAW Jones, Cleon lf-2(-1)e3/ cf-3e3/ 1b-4e15 9.68 2008-01-02 12:24:51
2 21 HFSMART Buford, Don+ lf-2(0)e5/ 2b-4e41/ 3b-4e25/ cf-4e5 6.54 2008-01-02 16:24:42
2 22 REDBEARDS Santo, Ron 3b-1e29 6.16 2008-01-02 16:25:03
2 23 UGRANT Yastrzemski, Carl* lf-1(-3)e5/ 1b-3e16/ cf-3e5 7.48 2008-01-02 20:47:37
2 24 GGROVER15 Rose, Pete+ rf-1(-2)e4/ cf-3e4/ 2b-4e37 10.3 2008-01-03 10:58:24
3 25 GGROVER15 Davis, Willie* cf-2(-1)e9 5.43 2008-01-03 11:35:21
3 26 UGRANT May, Lee 1b-3e12/ lf-4(+2)e5 7.09 2008-01-03 11:49:16
3 27 REDBEARDS Smith, Reggie+ cf-2(-4)e16 5.76 2008-01-03 18:26:45
3 28 HFSMART Staub, Rusty* rf-4(-4)e11 5.47 2008-01-03 20:32:39
3 29 JLAW Northrup, Jim* rf-2(-1)e6/ lf-2e6/ cf-3e6 6.37 2008-01-03 20:35:04
3 30 IDANRED McDowell, Sam* S8* 11.19 2008-01-03 20:35:04
3 31 KENHUTCHINGS Seaver, Tom S8* 7.77 2008-01-04 00:07:29
3 32 TOSHIRO Morgan, Joe* 2b-3e24/ lf-4(+3)e16 4.13 2008-01-04 01:11:53
3 33 JEIGENAUER Dierker, Larry S9*/R3 10.92 2008-01-04 12:47:27
3 34 PM770 Epstein, Mike* 1b-4e16 7.54 2008-01-04 13:49:30
3 35 CF17 Oliva, Tony* rf-1(-2)e7 6.83 2008-01-04 16:28:43
3 36 RISDEN Clarke, Horace+ 2b-2e16 3.52 2008-01-04 16:30:03
4 37 RISDEN Held, Woodie cf-4(+2)e9/ rf-4e9/ 3b-4e26/ lf-4e9/ ss-4e32/ 2b-4e23 1.96 2008-01-04 21:24:41
4 38 CF17 Tolan, Bobby* cf-3(-2)e12/ rf-2e12 5.79 2008-01-04 22:02:00
4 39 PM770 Tovar, Cesar cf-2(-1)e7/ rf-2e7/ lf-2e7/ 2b-3e34/ 3b-3e25 3.64 2008-01-04 22:10:19
4 40 JEIGENAUER Carty, Rico lf-4(+2)e16 4.53 2008-01-04 22:15:03
4 41 TOSHIRO Robinson, Brooks 3b-1e14 3.81 2008-01-05 01:37:07
4 42 KENHUTCHINGS Aparicio, Luis ss-2e21 4.53 2008-01-05 09:28:51
4 43 IDANRED Fiore, Mike* 1b-3e20/ rf-4(+2)e25 4.98 2008-01-05 09:30:03
4 44 JLAW Gibson, Bob S9* 10.71 2008-01-05 09:30:03
4 45 HFSMART Stanley, Mickey cf-1(-2)e6/ 1b-4e22/ ss-4e22 2.67 2008-01-05 17:40:35
4 46 REDBEARDS Belanger, Mark ss-2e26 3.75 2008-01-05 17:45:03
4 47 UGRANT Tatum, Ken R3 5.9 2008-01-05 18:45:10
4 48 GGROVER15 Brock, Lou* lf-2(+1)e15 3.37 2008-01-05 20:12:11
5 49 GGROVER15 Carew, Rod* 2b-3e25 5.34 2008-01-05 20:15:33
5 50 UGRANT Moose, Bob S7/R3 5.37 2008-01-05 21:36:45
5 51 REDBEARDS Carlton, Steve* S8* 9 2008-01-06 00:03:22
5 52 HFSMART Fregosi, Jim ss-2e21 5.3 2008-01-06 05:50:04
5 53 JLAW Millan, Felix 2b-1e17 3.56 2008-01-06 05:55:03
5 54 IDANRED Taylor, Carl lf-4(0)e25/ 1b-3e22/ rf-4e25 6.19 2008-01-06 05:55:03
5 55 KENHUTCHINGS Freehan, Bill c-2(-2)e5,T-5(pb-2)/ 1b-3e29 3.29 2008-01-06 09:44:14
5 56 TOSHIRO Cardenas, Leo ss-2e33 3.21 2008-01-06 12:52:20
5 57 JEIGENAUER Fernandez, Frank c-3(0)e3,T-3(pb-6)/ rf-4(0)e21 6.61 2008-01-06 12:55:04
5 58 PM770 Williams, Billy* lf-3(0)e13/ rf-4e13 3.29 2008-01-06 13:17:59
5 59 CF17 May, Carlos* rf-4(+1)e6/ lf-4e6 4.56 2008-01-06 13:37:51
5 60 RISDEN Kessinger, Don+ ss-2e21 3.1 2008-01-06 16:27:51
6 61 RISDEN Osteen, Claude* S9* 8.36 2008-01-06 22:30:47
6 62 CF17 Andrews, Mike 2b-2e26 6.31 2008-01-06 22:35:03
6 63 PM770 McLain, Denny S9* 7.68 2008-01-06 22:51:23
6 64 JEIGENAUER Reed, Ron S7*/R3 7.16 2008-01-07 07:50:51
6 65 TOSHIRO Mays, Willie cf-2(-3)e9/ 1b-4e25 5.14 2008-01-07 07:55:03
6 66 KENHUTCHINGS Gentry, Gary S7* 5.95 2008-01-07 09:19:54
6 67 IDANRED Green, Dick 2b-2e13 6.79 2008-01-07 09:20:03
6 68 JLAW Hebner, Richie* 3b-3e26/ 1b-4e25 3.11 2008-01-07 10:21:41
6 69 HFSMART Peterson, Fritz* S7* 9.29 2008-01-07 17:09:07
6 70 REDBEARDS White, Roy+ lf-2(+2)e4 7.04 2008-01-07 17:10:03
6 71 UGRANT Wilhelm, Hoyt R2 4.8 2008-01-08 00:29:21
6 72 GGROVER15 Lolich, Mickey* S8* 8.69 2008-01-08 00:30:03
7 73 GGROVER15 Murcer, Bobby* rf-3(-2)e12/ 3b-4e65/ cf-4e12 3.6 2008-01-08 09:13:46
7 74 UGRANT Pepitone, Joe* 1b-1e9 4.08 2008-01-08 10:49:58
7 75 REDBEARDS Hands, Bill S8* 7.46 2008-01-08 10:50:03
7 76 HFSMART Perry, Jim S7*/R3 7 2008-01-08 11:47:25
7 77 JLAW Hendricks, Ellie* c-4(0)e1,T-2(pb-4)/ 1b-4e25 2.49 2008-01-08 11:50:03
7 78 IDANRED Kosco, Andy rf-4(0)e5/ 1b-4e11 0.6 2008-01-08 11:50:03
7 79 KENHUTCHINGS Harper, Tommy 3b-4e24/ 2b-4e39/ lf-2(+1)e7/ cf-4e7 1.94 2008-01-08 12:59:09
7 80 TOSHIRO Egan, Tom c-2(0)e9,T-8(pb-10) 0.63 2008-01-08 13:00:04

[ugrant]

I wish I knew more about the draft site. This league is the first I've ever set up; I have no idea what (if any) problem there is. I think waiting for jeigenaur to make his pick is the way to go. If he can't make his pick, then there's an issue and we can figure it out from there.

[Red Beards]

I've used the draft site a lot (AEG III and 07) and it is very stable, this is the first for 69.
I think we'll be ok