Let's get the Champions League Off the Ground-check in here

[uncle ny]

Here'e the gang. Pick a state. We can go with the lottery on the calendar day immediately following the calendar day in which the last team checks in. For states with two pick three's, we'll go with the late pick 3. Low number gets first pick.

Rules: 18-round live draft, unique stadium, $80 million salary cap, DH. You cannot repeat any stadium that you've used in the prior rounds. Kindly note your unavailable (already used) stadiums with your state choice.

Good luck. 8)

1. cristano1
2. etdefender
3. Woods007
4. marcuswilby
5. kaviksdad
6. uncle ny - NJ (Tropicana, Busch, Montreal, Jacobs, Coors, Camden)
7. mesquiton
8. Riggodrill
9. Coffeeholic*
10. UTBill
11. spicki17
12. bigmahon

[mesquiton]

1. cristano1
2. etdefender
3. Woods007
4. marcuswilby
5. kaviksdad
6. uncle ny - NJ (Tropicana, Busch, Montreal, Jacobs, Coors, Camden)
7. mesquiton - AZ (US Cell, Coors, Wrigley, Citizen's Bank, Ameriquest)
8. Riggodrill
9. Coffeeholic*
10. UTBill
11. spicki17
12. bigmahon

Ready whenever the big talkers return to planet Earth. :P

[bigmahon]

1. cristano1
2. etdefender
3. Woods007
4. marcuswilby
5. kaviksdad
6. uncle ny - NJ (Tropicana, Busch, Montreal, Jacobs, Coors, Camden)
7. mesquiton - AZ (US Cell, Coors, Wrigley, Citizen's Bank, Ameriquest)
8. Riggodrill
9. Coffeeholic*
10. UTBill
11. spicki17
12. bigmahon - NH (ProP, Petco, Jacobs, Tropicana, Safeco, Shea)

[Coffeeholic]

1. cristano1
2. etdefender
3. Woods007
4. marcuswilby
5. kaviksdad
6. uncle ny - NJ (Tropicana, Busch, Montreal, Jacobs, Coors, Camden)
7. mesquiton - AZ (US Cell, Coors, Wrigley, Citizen's Bank, Ameriquest)
8. Riggodrill
9. Coffeeholic* - NY (Coors, Comerica, Busch, Skydome, Petco, Fenway, US Cell)
10. UTBill
11. spicki17
12. bigmahon - NH (ProP, Petco, Jacobs, Tropicana, Safeco, Shea)

[Coffeeholic]

1) Guys, we'll need a commish for this league, and it would probably be a good idea to get an impartial person involved here. [b:4f93577de8]Teepack[/b:4f93577de8] has done such a great job of things for the Tour all year long, he'd be a great choice. [b:4f93577de8]Penngray[/b:4f93577de8] would also be a logical choice, as he would have access to our live draft, but I'm not sure if he has the time or interest he once did?

2) In my Tour Live Draft League, one manager intentionally didn't list players on his draft card whom he had picked during the live draft. He was penalized by losing Tour points, but was allowed to proceed with his "different" players. I'd like a stipulation that we must list the players on our draft cards that we pick during the "live draft"?

3) "Live Draft" Clock: We should probably reach an agreement on how this will be set up. Given the opportunity, I would vote:

No clock for the 1st round;
4 hour limit for each pick, except at the "corners" where 4 hours for both picks would be in effect;
Keep the clock "running" on the weekends;
Reasonable hours so that the clock doesn't run while we're sleeping (BigM is over in the UK, so we need to keep him in mind on this one).

Any thoughts?

[uncle ny]

Rule requiring including your drafted players on your draft card: I agree.

Commish - T pack or PG would be fine w/ me.

Clock - I'd suggest 6 hours. We've waited this long to do the league. I wouldn't want to see a manager lose perhaps 11 players because she/he got stuck in traffic or in a meeting somewhere.

[cristano11]

1. cristano1 - CT (busch, safeco, jacobs, shea, ameriquest)
2. etdefender
3. Woods007
4. marcuswilby
5. kaviksdad
6. uncle ny - NJ (Tropicana, Busch, Montreal, Jacobs, Coors, Camden)
7. mesquiton - AZ (US Cell, Coors, Wrigley, Citizen's Bank, Ameriquest)
8. Riggodrill
9. Coffeeholic* - NY (Coors, Comerica, Busch, Skydome, Petco, Fenway, US Cell)
10. UTBill
11. spicki17
12. bigmahon - NH (ProP, Petco, Jacobs, Tropicana, Safeco, Shea)

[mesquiton]

I think Teepack would be a great choice for commish, if he's willing.

The rules for Tour live drafts have been set and posted since day one, I see no reason to change any rules in the middle of the game. No prob if everybody agrees to something, but at least I think everybody should have veto power over any changes in the posted rules.

Personally, I'd have no objection to extending the clock or running thru the weekend. The draft card stuff is covered in the posted rules, but the "tour point" penalties no longer apply in the Finals...maybe the penalty should instead be permanent loss of the pick...?

Anyhow, I'm happy to defer to Teepack's judgment where there are no clear rules posted for the Finals.

[mesquiton]

For reference, here are the Tour live draft rules as posted:

V. Draft Rules

A Tour member assigned by the board will create each qualifying league so that the league creation, entry, password etc are controlled.

Live draft League Rules

1) Each manager will, upon signing up for a league, choose one of the states/province that has a daily pick 3 number.

2) The daily pick 3 number will be used to determine the draft order with the lowest number being given the first pick in odd-numbered rounds. The order will reverse in the even-numbered rounds for a serpentine type draft.

3) The evening lottery drawing numbers will be used to determine draft order. All 12 positions in a league must be filled prior to 7PM EST or 7PM EDT in order for the lottery results of that particular evening to be used.

4) A manager will have 2 hours in which to make a player selection. Managers who draft in either the No. 1 or No. 12 position will have two hours in which to make both of their picks when they have back-to-back selections - not two hours per pick. If a manager does not make a draft selection within that time period, the manager with the next draft position may select a player. The manager who was bypassed may make a selection anytime afterward. The clock is OFF in all first rounds to ensure everyone is present.

5) The live drafts will consist of 18 rounds, which includes stadium (which can be picked at any time during the draft). The last eight players will be determined through the TSN autodraft engine. All live drafts will be conducted using Penngray’s software. [b:f99befc7b4]When filling out your draft cards, please rank your eight non-drafted players first, then your 17 drafted players. All players taken during the live draft must be on your autodraft card. Failure to do so will result in a penalty of 10 Tour points for each player.

The 10-point penalty can be avoided if the manager does ALL of the following:

A) Announce his mistake to the league via a message to every manager in the league and then proclaim his intention to pick the player back up during waivers. He must do this by 9 p.m. ET on the night after the draft runs (i.e., the day BEFORE the waivers process).
B) Cut his most expensive non-live drafted player prior to 12 p.m. ET on the day waivers are scheduled to run.
C) Use his first waiver claim on the player he left off his draft card; if he decides to release a player in conjunction with this claim, the player he releases must be one of the additional eight players he picked up during the autodraft and cannot be one of the players he selected in the live draft. In addition, he must announce which player he will be releasing so that every manager will be aware that this player will be in the free agent pool immediately after the waivers conclude.

If a manager leaves two players he live drafted off his draft card, he must follow each of the steps above for BOTH players he did not draft, which means he has to cut his two most expensive non-live drafted players by 12 p.m. ET on the day waivers are scheduled to run AND use his first two waiver picks to pick up his live drafted players.

If a manager leaves three or more players he live drafted off his draft card, he is fined 10 points per player more than 2, assuming he adheres to A and B in this section. If a manager chooses not to do ALL OF THE ABOVE, he will be penalized 10 points off his Tour point total for EACH player he left off his draft card and did not pick back up during waivers.

In addition, if you mistakenly autodraft a player that belongs to another manager, you must trade him back to the rightful manager PRIOR to waivers. Failure to do so will result in a penalty of 10 Tour points.[/b:f99befc7b4]

6) Managers will enter their teams into the league in the following order. Managers’ whose first-round draft positions are 1, 4, 7 and 10 will comprise the East Division. Managers’ whose draft positions are 2, 5, 8 and 11 will comprise the Central Division. Managers’ whose draft positions are 3, 6, 9 and 12 will comprise the West Division.

7) All rules established by TSN will govern the league after its establishment.

8) Trading is allowed during the draft. No uneven numbered trades allowed. All teams must have 17 players after the live portion of the draft is completed.

[ERICTAYLOR 2]

1. cristano1 - CT (busch, safeco, jacobs, shea, ameriquest)
2. etdefender - CA (Coors, Montreal, Metrodome, Yankee, BOB, Turner)
3. Woods007
4. marcuswilby
5. kaviksdad
6. uncle ny - NJ (Tropicana, Busch, Montreal, Jacobs, Coors, Camden)
7. mesquiton - AZ (US Cell, Coors, Wrigley, Citizen's Bank, Ameriquest)
8. Riggodrill
9. Coffeeholic* - NY (Coors, Comerica, Busch, Skydome, Petco, Fenway, US Cell)
10. UTBill
11. spicki17
12. bigmahon - NH (ProP, Petco, Jacobs, Tropicana, Safeco, Shea)