I just realized that I was confusing the two teams. The 99 win team [i:ed6adf3f7b]The Disrespected[/i:ed6adf3f7b] is pretty conventional in that the outfield is all 2s, a 2 at ss, and a 3 at 2B. The pitching staff is fairly low budget at just over $23 mil, but this a Bonds team that will compensate for some of that.
The new team is asking to win with a 4 at 2B, SS, 3B and a 3 in CF! If this happens, then the smoke you see over Montreal will be [b:ed6adf3f7b]luckyman[/b:ed6adf3f7b]'s computer throwing out lightning sized sparks!
I definitely plan to keep an eye on this team. If it's successful it will be an incredible story.
settings question...
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by bomp helium » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:29 am
Good Evening Gentlemen:
Larkin's a four...but he's an e6 (or e8, somewhere in there)...and if my shortstop goes through a season and makes 6 errors (or 8), I don't have a problem with that...especially if he hits .290 with pop...sure he'll cost me some runs with his range, but will he produce more runs with his bat than he surrenders with his glove?...I suggest that he may...but the real intriguing number is 1.4 million...
the problem with the secret formula theory is that once the secret formula is announced then it isn't a secret anymore and then everyone else tries it and the next thing you know you get three of your 25 draft picks and even the inventor of the secret theory can't get it to work and soon he is roundly discredited and turns to drink while the crowd quickly moves on to the next secret theory...
Think about it this way...this may be bizarre but it also may be true...(that happens a lot in life)...baseball is two things: scoring runs and preventing runs from being scored. These may be called OFFENSE and DEFENSE. Each is 50% of the equation (27 outs each).
OFFENSE is scoring runs, which is a blend of OBP, power, speed, finesse and clutch hitting. These factors comprise 50% of the game. The idea is, you have 27 outs in which to score runs. Each of the above factors contribute to your success. I might break them down this way: OBP 30%; power 20%, speed 20%, clutch hitting 20%, finesse 10%.
DEFENSE is preventing runs, which is a blend of pitching, fielding and range. These factors comprise the other 50% of the game. You need to minimize the runs scored before you get 27 outs. Each factor is important. I might break them down as follows: Pitching 70% (I put my faith in the guy holding the ball); fielding 15% (it is important, psychologically as much as anything, to have consistent and professional play from your fielders); range 15% (it is a nice bonus to have athletic players -- especially outfielders -- who can run down balls and take away baserunners).
So there's my theory, in a slightly intoxicated nutshell. 50% offense, 50% defense. Offense = OBP 30%; power 20% speed 20% finesse 10% clutch hitting 20%. Defense = pitching 70%; fielding 15%; range 15%.
Therefore, a players "range" or "e-rating" are relatively minor considerations, under this hastily conceived model. It is more important that he contribute to the run-making machine. The "range" factor is just 15% of Defense, which equals 15% of 50%, or 7.5% of the whole equation. Since there are nine players, a shortstop's combined fielding and range is, generously, oh, 1/5 of 7.5% x 2, or a mere 3% of the equation of baseball...while that same shortstop's OFFENSE is 1/9 of 50%, or 4.5% of the equation...
So Barry Larkin's hitting might just be more important than his fielding (4.5% to 3%)...if my numbers are an accurate reflection (haha)...
and that's the [i:16ee2dd07a]shortstop[/i:16ee2dd07a], who I am crediting with 1/5 of the plays made...the ratio may be even more skewed towards offense with the corner players...
but the number I really like is the 1.40...getting Larkin and Lugo (1.77) up the middle may have horrified the purists, but it freed up a lotta cash towards J.D Drew (.436), to add to Bonds (.609), Snow (.429), Walker (.424) and Quinlan (.401)...everyone else in the run machine is in the mid-to high .300s (including Larkin and Lugo, who make an outsanding bottom of the order as we turn the corner into .429, .436, .609, .424, and .401...
I'm sure the team era will be a nightmare, but what I'm looking for are [i:16ee2dd07a]wins[/i:16ee2dd07a]...plus it's a fun way to play the game...
Of course I've just not only given away my secrets, such as they are, which means I won't be getting 23 out of 25 on draft day anymore, but I've also just jinxed myself, which means The Lenticular Cloud People will finish 26-136, with up to 11 players injured at a time, three of them permanently, including Rob Quinlin, who, sadly, was run over by a drunken Brian Roberts in a stolen taxi cab and KILLED on an early-season road trip...
can Tyler Walker play 3B?...
cheers,
helium
please -- don't take the numbers seriously...they're just tossed out there to illustrate a point...
Larkin's a four...but he's an e6 (or e8, somewhere in there)...and if my shortstop goes through a season and makes 6 errors (or 8), I don't have a problem with that...especially if he hits .290 with pop...sure he'll cost me some runs with his range, but will he produce more runs with his bat than he surrenders with his glove?...I suggest that he may...but the real intriguing number is 1.4 million...
the problem with the secret formula theory is that once the secret formula is announced then it isn't a secret anymore and then everyone else tries it and the next thing you know you get three of your 25 draft picks and even the inventor of the secret theory can't get it to work and soon he is roundly discredited and turns to drink while the crowd quickly moves on to the next secret theory...
Think about it this way...this may be bizarre but it also may be true...(that happens a lot in life)...baseball is two things: scoring runs and preventing runs from being scored. These may be called OFFENSE and DEFENSE. Each is 50% of the equation (27 outs each).
OFFENSE is scoring runs, which is a blend of OBP, power, speed, finesse and clutch hitting. These factors comprise 50% of the game. The idea is, you have 27 outs in which to score runs. Each of the above factors contribute to your success. I might break them down this way: OBP 30%; power 20%, speed 20%, clutch hitting 20%, finesse 10%.
DEFENSE is preventing runs, which is a blend of pitching, fielding and range. These factors comprise the other 50% of the game. You need to minimize the runs scored before you get 27 outs. Each factor is important. I might break them down as follows: Pitching 70% (I put my faith in the guy holding the ball); fielding 15% (it is important, psychologically as much as anything, to have consistent and professional play from your fielders); range 15% (it is a nice bonus to have athletic players -- especially outfielders -- who can run down balls and take away baserunners).
So there's my theory, in a slightly intoxicated nutshell. 50% offense, 50% defense. Offense = OBP 30%; power 20% speed 20% finesse 10% clutch hitting 20%. Defense = pitching 70%; fielding 15%; range 15%.
Therefore, a players "range" or "e-rating" are relatively minor considerations, under this hastily conceived model. It is more important that he contribute to the run-making machine. The "range" factor is just 15% of Defense, which equals 15% of 50%, or 7.5% of the whole equation. Since there are nine players, a shortstop's combined fielding and range is, generously, oh, 1/5 of 7.5% x 2, or a mere 3% of the equation of baseball...while that same shortstop's OFFENSE is 1/9 of 50%, or 4.5% of the equation...
So Barry Larkin's hitting might just be more important than his fielding (4.5% to 3%)...if my numbers are an accurate reflection (haha)...
and that's the [i:16ee2dd07a]shortstop[/i:16ee2dd07a], who I am crediting with 1/5 of the plays made...the ratio may be even more skewed towards offense with the corner players...
but the number I really like is the 1.40...getting Larkin and Lugo (1.77) up the middle may have horrified the purists, but it freed up a lotta cash towards J.D Drew (.436), to add to Bonds (.609), Snow (.429), Walker (.424) and Quinlan (.401)...everyone else in the run machine is in the mid-to high .300s (including Larkin and Lugo, who make an outsanding bottom of the order as we turn the corner into .429, .436, .609, .424, and .401...
I'm sure the team era will be a nightmare, but what I'm looking for are [i:16ee2dd07a]wins[/i:16ee2dd07a]...plus it's a fun way to play the game...
Of course I've just not only given away my secrets, such as they are, which means I won't be getting 23 out of 25 on draft day anymore, but I've also just jinxed myself, which means The Lenticular Cloud People will finish 26-136, with up to 11 players injured at a time, three of them permanently, including Rob Quinlin, who, sadly, was run over by a drunken Brian Roberts in a stolen taxi cab and KILLED on an early-season road trip...
can Tyler Walker play 3B?...
cheers,
helium
please -- don't take the numbers seriously...they're just tossed out there to illustrate a point...
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the disrespected...
by bomp helium » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:49 am
The Disrespected won 99 games, but as they head into day 2 of the playoffs they are less than they once were, all because of one long, bad night and too much Dead Guy Pale Ale, when Livan Hernandez, Jiminez and Joe McEwing were Jettisoned for Wise, Lugo and Cintron...why?...because i was pissed at Hernandez and especially HAL for favoring McEwing at every chance and even batting him LEADOFF...I dumped Livan because three of the four possible playoff opponents featured many LF hitters...(of course I'm playing the fourth)...I dumped Jiminez because I thought I'd face more LHP in the playoofs...oops...
The Coors teams are even more defenseless, and yet they persist...the Shasta Bigfeet have lost by scores of 36-0 (no joke), 25-2, and 18-0...but they win more of those games than they lose and after 105 games they are something like 63-42 and have an 11 game lead...scary, though...I wouldn't want to be Mrs. Shigotoshi Hasegawa...
The Shasta Walk-Ins are even scarier, and yet they're 30-15...
It's early though...it could all go south at any time...and of course the most important question: how many titles have I won: NONE.
just havin' a good time...
helium
The Coors teams are even more defenseless, and yet they persist...the Shasta Bigfeet have lost by scores of 36-0 (no joke), 25-2, and 18-0...but they win more of those games than they lose and after 105 games they are something like 63-42 and have an 11 game lead...scary, though...I wouldn't want to be Mrs. Shigotoshi Hasegawa...
The Shasta Walk-Ins are even scarier, and yet they're 30-15...
It's early though...it could all go south at any time...and of course the most important question: how many titles have I won: NONE.
just havin' a good time...
helium
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by 1crazycanuk » Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:36 am
"So Barry Larkin's hitting might just be more important than his fielding (4.5% to 3%)...if my numbers are an accurate reflection (haha)..."
But you can't forget that Larkin is only going to be hitting a few times in a game...while he will be in the outfield for most of the game. Advantage would probably go to the other team. :wink:
"The Lenticular Cloud People will finish 26-136, with up to 11 players injured at a time, three of them permanently, including Rob Quinlin, who, sadly, was run over by a drunken Brian Roberts in a stolen taxi cab and KILLED on an early-season road trip..." :lol: :lol:
But you can't forget that Larkin is only going to be hitting a few times in a game...while he will be in the outfield for most of the game. Advantage would probably go to the other team. :wink:
"The Lenticular Cloud People will finish 26-136, with up to 11 players injured at a time, three of them permanently, including Rob Quinlin, who, sadly, was run over by a drunken Brian Roberts in a stolen taxi cab and KILLED on an early-season road trip..." :lol: :lol:
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by J-Pav » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:29 am
[b:6a95b29cc6]Helium[/b:6a95b29cc6]:
Keep at it, have fun, stay enthusiastic! It's refreshing to see new people trying new things. Sometimes it takes an unreasonable approach to push the envelope. Don't get discouraged, keep at it and keep learning.
Lastly, don't worry too much about giving away "secrets." There are none. The secret formula stuff was tongue in cheek. You can win in all kinds of ways, so even if every single player used "secret formula" fundamentals, the fundamentals don't lose their effectiveness. Just check out the tour threads and tour team links and you'll see what I mean.
Keep on rollin'. :D
Keep at it, have fun, stay enthusiastic! It's refreshing to see new people trying new things. Sometimes it takes an unreasonable approach to push the envelope. Don't get discouraged, keep at it and keep learning.
Lastly, don't worry too much about giving away "secrets." There are none. The secret formula stuff was tongue in cheek. You can win in all kinds of ways, so even if every single player used "secret formula" fundamentals, the fundamentals don't lose their effectiveness. Just check out the tour threads and tour team links and you'll see what I mean.
Keep on rollin'. :D
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by bleacher_creature » Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:14 pm
I have no great track record myself, but I believe that the reason why pitchig and defense are stressed in Strat & in real life, is that it gives you more predictable outcomes. It is more of a "controlled game".
Not only that, MLB teams get affected severly in a psychological way when they see a team score 8 or 9 runs and lose.
I live in Seattle. In the 90's the Mariners would regularly put up crooked numbers on the scoreboard in the Kingdome, which nearly rivaled Coors in offensive effect. Not only was it easy to deposit souveniers in the RF seats, the Astroturf provided for high BAs.
The fans, along with Lou Piniella, went literally insane watching this team, who was never quite capable of building a pitching staff beyond Randy Johnson, lose games 10-9; 8-7; 11-10, etc...
Bill James once said that never has a team done so little with so much talent. I blame the ballpark (wreaked havoc on the pitching staff)
more that Lou Piniella.
Not only that, MLB teams get affected severly in a psychological way when they see a team score 8 or 9 runs and lose.
I live in Seattle. In the 90's the Mariners would regularly put up crooked numbers on the scoreboard in the Kingdome, which nearly rivaled Coors in offensive effect. Not only was it easy to deposit souveniers in the RF seats, the Astroturf provided for high BAs.
The fans, along with Lou Piniella, went literally insane watching this team, who was never quite capable of building a pitching staff beyond Randy Johnson, lose games 10-9; 8-7; 11-10, etc...
Bill James once said that never has a team done so little with so much talent. I blame the ballpark (wreaked havoc on the pitching staff)
more that Lou Piniella.
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by geekor » Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:03 pm
actually this isn't new. I beleive back in the 02 game Daniel (dneedle1) did a couple all offense, no pitching, no def teams. One I remeber fondly as he whipped my ass good in the semi's... and I believe he went on to win the title.
Of course rp's were so much cheaper and easier to overuse back then... :lol:
Of course rp's were so much cheaper and easier to overuse back then... :lol:
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Three Axioms of Baseball
by JohnnyBlazers » Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:14 pm
Pitching, Defense, Timely hitting. As sure as the sun falls & rises, you can bet that your championship teams all have these trademarks. Think about it, what team in the last 25 years has won a world series without these three ingredients?
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by J-Pav » Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:05 pm
[b:3effdeea61]Aray[/b:3effdeea61]:
Let 'er rip!
(Three Buck Chuck was a league started by Glenn "[b:3effdeea61]The Biomechanical Man[/b:3effdeea61]" who set the rules: Five 50 cent SPs (SP only, no SP/RPs), Five RPs any price. Exactly 10 pitchers total).
Let 'er rip!
(Three Buck Chuck was a league started by Glenn "[b:3effdeea61]The Biomechanical Man[/b:3effdeea61]" who set the rules: Five 50 cent SPs (SP only, no SP/RPs), Five RPs any price. Exactly 10 pitchers total).
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