Which AL? Simmons or Kaline?

Which AL? Simmons or Kaline?

Postby egvrich » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:20 am

I know it sounds like a stupid question, but look a little closer ...

I've got a pitching and defense team playing in Griffith '24, the league has another 6 or 7 extreme pitchers parks. My division is ALL pitchers parks.

I currently have Chick Gandil at 1B and I picked up Al Simmons in waivers. But, I have the option of dropping those two and picking up Al Kaline and Cecil Cooper. I know, dropping Al Simmons is heresy, but hear me out ......

Gandil is a 15 game injury risk and a 14 speed.

Cooper is bulletproof and also a 14 speed with alot more power, same defense and lower gb A's. Plus, he gives me another LH bat.

Simmons is a STRAT GOD who is only a 3 game injury risk, has a -1 arm and a 13 speed.

Kaline is a high injury risk, but he has a -3 arm, a 14 speed and actually has a higher OBP in Griffith than Simmons.

Am I nuts for considering dropping Simmons. I offered him up for trade and only got one inquiry in 24 hours.
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Postby gkhd11a » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:17 pm

Al Simmons's card in Griffith is a .415 BA with a .700Slgging Al Kaline is nowhere close .321 with a .415 SLG. Most of the extra OBP you are talking about is coming from walks. Al is a legit #3 hitter against lefties and righties. I would consider getting a different 1B unless your divison is righty loaded. Kaline's card is actually very lefty oriented so against righties is quite weak - his card against lefties in 600 AB's will produce 52 doubles vs 7 against righties.

The additional problem at this point is if you release him without getting a top 10 player back you will be making a competitor much stronger. I would definetly keep him.
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Postby sschu » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:23 pm

I have used Simmons in pitcher parks, due to his lower OBP, he can sometimes "underperform". By that I mean he wont hit .340 with 45 2Bs and 40 HRs.

His glove, durability, flexibility and hitting make him a player you want on virtually any team IHMO. Certainly Gandils' downside can be overcome. Simmons is solid trade bait, either trade him or keep him.

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Postby MidTennHitman » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:35 pm

Hear me now, believe me later..............Kaline is FAR too much of an injury risk and Simmons is OUTSTANDING IN ANY STADIUM
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Postby egvrich » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:35 pm

So, I am NUTS ........ :wink:
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Postby nevdully's » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:49 pm

I'm in that league with you, and you really gotta keep Simmons.
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Postby bkeat23 » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:57 pm

It Chuck's D right out the window, but in a $60M league I have Crawford at 1b. :shock:

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Postby egvrich » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:58 pm

Yeah, NEV, several others have echoed the same thing, I'm gonna rework a couple of other spots, but keep Simmons.

Thanks all for the input.
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Postby raslavens » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:54 pm

post your team
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Postby OdysseyTigger » Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:22 pm

For what its worth....

....Injuries don't scare me

.....Meusel and Clemente are two of my favorites

.....I sort of play in Griffith a lot

.....I don't even think about using Kaline


So....I agree with the others about keeping Simmons
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