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Postby tersignf » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:59 pm

Relax man--you have a good core. Burnett's good there.
It's complex with all the hitter's parks amidst your Petco island...
I didn't take a hard look at your team, but ask any vet--you need to be offensive-slanted in Petco or you'll never score...there's an exception to that if you get a guy like Santana and then a few cheapies then it's OK to have that stud if you structure your pitching around him--but if you want to win then I doubt you'll find too many folks who have had success in Petco who spent more than 30 mil on pitching--in fact 26-30 is more common from what I've seen.

I only had one team in Petco...won the div and went to the finals.
Greinke for instance was 15-6, 3.97. Pettite had about a 3.40 ERA. I think I posted a link on another Petco lineup help thread. And that was with Casey, Kendall, Drew etc.

I haven't really analyzed your team--but you still want good D in Petco and I think yours is suspect. Izturis is great. I wouldn't play a 4 in the OF. If it were me, Manny has to DH but looks like you have Thome doing that. BTW--Thome has 14 natural XBHs against righties--you'll note that's top tier power--someone like Drew only has 8 XBH I believe...but it won't be a net positive if you have to play Ramirez in the OF--he either DHs or Thome DHs IMO.

A Petco staff could easily have an ace of Pedro Martinez then lesser guys and do awesome.

Good Luck--my opinion is shore up your D...spend 26-30 on pitching and have fun and let us know how it goes. Don't second guess--verify your own analysis and maybe you'll come up with a new paradigm--there's more than one way to win, especially when one accounts for the dynamics of divisional opponents.
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Postby tersignf » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:07 pm

The kinds of guys that could split the difference for you on pitching with all those hitters parks are folks like Harden, Lowry, Burnett, Haren, Wise, Shields, Mahay, RLopez

Basically look for guys who may not be the biggest value for Petco (i.e., lots of #s) but who don't have lots of xbhs on their card like the ones above (obviously lowry and Haren need right conditions)--but there are others.
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Postby LMBombers » Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:30 am

Don't get all aggrivated just because some of us have different opinions on what players would be good or not. Everyone is different and therefore may have differing opinions. We give you our suggestions. You have to ultimately decide what you feel comfortable with.
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Postby tersignf » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:00 am

Absolutely LM...after all isn't that the fun of it? If you're merely transcribing other folks' inputs, why not just give them the $25 too and let them enter it?
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Dude--I hope your team does well!
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Postby 1crazycanuk » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:38 am

Hey I know, you're right. But if you look back...there were a few comments that got under my skin. "Your team is in Petco right?" "You do know that's a pitcher's park?" I don't know about you but I don't like my intelligence questioned for having MY opinion. My opinion is this...I've had teams in Petco and went for strong pitching and defence and couldn't score a friggin run. Now I'm going for offence and since there aren't many strong starters out there, I went to Gordon and Rivera in the pen.

My other opinion is (since I picked up Thome again) that he will DH and I'll take my chances with Manny in LF since most batters may hit the ball to RF in Petco I think. With my relief pitching I feel that even if I fall behind in a game they will hold the fort and my offence will steal the game. If I lose some games at home, oh well. MOST of the league is in hitters parks and I have to compete.
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Postby Jerlins » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:43 am

I hope you do well also, but if you want to solicit opinions, be ready to accept some criticisms as well. Like LM mentioned, everyone has differing opinions, which is why we have leagues and compete against each other.
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Postby 1crazycanuk » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:46 am

Thanks Jerlins. I can accept criticism...it has to be done a certain way. But when all you hear is that Petco is a pitcher's park and you have to have offence there and I go and get it, I didn't expect sarcastic questions that questioned my intelligence.
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Postby Woody5 » Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:30 pm

Crazy- I like the concept of heavy hitting in Petco and just had a team win 96 Games with the best record in the league that way.

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/2005/playoffs/team_other.html?user_id=41961&stats=sim

1) The one definite tweek I would make is ditch Thome! He has underperformed for me every time I've had him whether it be in Petco or Coors. Invest in a better RF or a DH with a lot of doubles. A 1 in CF would be great but not Hunter.

2) I could make the case as well that you could live without Gordon if you needed to get some $$. Love Rivera in Petco. There are plenty of $4-5 million set up men who's #'s would not be that far away from Flash.

3) You could also find some $$ in making your SP even "worse". Zito, Willis, Morris ect. are all cheaper SP that will do as good or better than who you have for less money and more starts because of the *'s.


Good Luck.
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Postby tersignf » Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:54 pm

Absolutely--and 1crazy canadian--take note most all the vets have been consistent--you need to put a few more dollars into offense at Petco and use value guys to pitch to maximize your park's advantage...of course if you got confused by someone with a name of "Puckin Drunk" that's your problem!
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Postby 1crazycanuk » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:21 pm

LOL that's an interesting name there. haha

Yeah...I could drop Thome but I didn't really see anyone better than him available. I had switched Manny to DH and picked up Jenkins and Reed Johnson for LF but it seemed like I was downgrading.

I will look at SP's but Gordon has done well for every time so I'm having a hard time giving up on him. I like Rivera too. Thanks for the constructive criticism. :wink:

Right now I may stick with Higgy in RF. He's cheap and is doing amazing for my other Petco team so far. Thanks for the link to your team. We have some similar players. Looks like Zito does well in Petco. Congratulations on the season.
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