This Is Total BS

HAL.....

Postby The Rivs » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:00 pm

I send Hal a case of beer and a bottle of good hooch before every draft, and the begining of each play-off I've managed to make. :shock:
Still...he doesn't always get it. I've had HAL move Jimmie Foxx From 1B to catch late in games, when there is a perfectly fine catcher on my bench!?!?....HAL is mystical. Getting him to use a high priced SP/RP over a nickle RP in a tight situation is like trying to get a watermelon up a Gnats rear-end!
But some of the stuff that has been complained about as well as the possible parity point I think is off base...
First I'd say I understand the dynamic you are trying to point out but I would say that with injuries...you know what could happen... it's one of the few things spelled out pretty clearly. I've had Willie Stargell in ATG carry my team all year only to tear it down when he goes down for 15 games. Everyone has their stories. Secondly though, and mostly, sometimes it's really how the ball bounces, or the dice roll. Knowing that you could change your outcomes by monitoring your teams daily hitting dynamic, and adjusting it accordingly would change outcomes for any team....Use the Settings given to you. I mean it's relatively easy to get HAL to do something different, you just don't get to know until it happens....like the great game itself...there's no parity in that! Just random outcomes and probabilities against research, and hours... usually, of getting different source stats and making a choice to improve your team...The reason I stay with this site is that, while we may complain, I think, our ability to control the actual outcome for our team is more in our hands than anywhere else. My recent case in point is in 2007... my team, which looked great on paper...started 11-18. At the same time the ERA was okay and the hitting was adequate...I actually took part of an afternoon did a little work, made 2 SP changes, Closer Swap out...changed my DH and CF... Flip the line-up around....And PRESTO! I go 28-12 and am in first place! This is the game....just checkin' your teams is not gonna cut it...people pay hard cash to compete here! Which I have heard they feed to HAL in big bushell baskets. When the dice ain't rollin' your way you gotta shake it up...watch the wire....One of the guys I got was Hudson in 2007...he was 0-5 when dropped....He's 6-0 for me! I thought he was in a bad park for his card. Y'know...Ya gotta manage! Anyway that's my story....Oh and I had a team last week 98 wins...nearest team in the league had 86 wins...I took the first two games of the Semis and then he took three from me! :shock: I got letters from the other managers in the league saying they hate it when HAL does that stuff...but they all had a story lie ours....It does happen. And it may seem to happen more here than in real life...but guess what, I've managed some 50-odd teams...what real manager has done that? Keep the size of the sample in mind when you freak out....and have a frosty, or a smoke on me. :wink:
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Postby bomp helium » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:21 pm

Uri, the same things have been said about the real game. Round ball, round bat. Bad-hop singles and scorching outs. Ever been to Vegas? The difference between a winner and loser is about 2%. That's how much "skill" is worth. But it's what separates an average manager from one who consistently performs at a high level and makes the playoffs 60-70 percent of the time (above the statistical average).

There's luck involved, and a whole lot more. Myself, I pop steroids. That seems to help.

Good luck.
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'86 as an example

Postby pcbaseballsims » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:47 pm

"I have found another saying that applies-What goes around, comes around. The breaks, both good and bad, tend to even out in the long run."

Indeed! All 4 of my 1986 clubs finished with winning records--two 1sts, two 2nd place finishes. 3 teams made the playoffs. One won 98 reg season games & the WS in 6.

What's interesting is one team that was 2nd or lower almost entire year, leapfrogged the 1st place team to win the division--in the last series !

Conversely, a team that was first almost entire year, slipped to 2nd also in the final 3 game series !

So youre right--it does even out. 8-)
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Postby Phenomenal » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:45 pm

I liked the Rivs post,

well played Mr. Rivs, well played!
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Postby askaufman » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:53 pm

Urishade, I totally understand where you're coming from. It amazes me that at $25 a team or spending $100 a year for five teams is a lot of cash for some people and somehow you're not supposed to be upset when things go bad. I buy only two teams a year because frankly I get bored playing the same players and don't want to invest more than $50 a year into this game. I have made the playoffs twice with 15 teams and won one trophy. That's success in my terms. I loved playing online with teams beause I could control the moves and not at the whim of HAL's cyberbrain. HAL stands for "he's a loser" because seems at times he tries his best to piss us off and make us lose. There are "tricks" to ensuring your team is competitive and I have learned those from the "experts" here but in the end you are totally helpless. That's why I don't bet on HAL or dumb animals. I work too hard for my money.
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Postby coyote303 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:14 am

[quote:40bd09448b="urishade"]After reading more of the negative respones to my post...

It is as if the very idea of me bringing in different ways of thinking about the game and how the results are determined is blasphamous. I get the feeling that a great many people of this board take enormous pleasure from putting down others and showing how strong and without fault they can be...[/quote:40bd09448b]

I must say the OP seems to be living proof of the law of attraction!
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Postby shinsational » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:35 am

See everything I said about your whiny little *** the first time. Oh yeah, and quit. You won't be missed.
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Postby RICHARDMILTER » Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:22 am

Urishade,
My suggestion to you is to start drinking heavily. Also mix in a few valiums, and a funny smelling cigarette every once in a while. This will mellow you out. I adhere to a strict drug regiment in order to keep my mind limber!

Jeffery Lebowski
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Postby robwrjr » Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:51 pm

[quote:53b26ddda9="drew6013"]urishade = 2007 Mets[/quote:53b26ddda9]

Buffalo Bills of SOM.
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THE URISHADE BRIEF

Postby garykeithron » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:22 am

[quote:82a7bed3b0="garykeithron"]I hear ya Urishade.

I would consider your two pennant stretch shortcomingings deliberately singled out by HAL right up there with these five other major injustices perpetuated on someone:

5) Current Mortgage Fraud Crisis
4) Hollywood Blacklist scandal from a few decades back
3) MLB Owner collusion against free agents in the 90's
2) African genocide
1) The Holocaust[/quote:82a7bed3b0]

Forgive me SOM fans, but Urishade must be right. Ever since I posted these comments, my teams have disintegrated. For example, one team was in first at 73-37 (.663) and it finished 23-29 (.442) and then lost in the semis in four games to a team I had handled all season long. My new team has started off 13-20 (.394) in dead last place. This can't be a coincidence.

SOM fans, never mind the Pelican Brief, Urishade has posted the Urishade Brief (...even though there was nothing brief about his comments).

I only hope that by posting this retraction, HAL will find some place in his heart, or should I say code, to forgive me and let things get back to normal for my teams. I really meant no harm :cry: .
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