by The Last Druid » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:37 pm
Agree with Novie about the double plays. As regards the WHIP stuff, I prefer to frame the defensive impact in terms of the player, not the team. Specifically I 'pretend' convert it to the players offensive production to better have a feel for the impact. Thus if Yount gives up 14 more errors but 21 less hits than Banks that would be similar to Yount getting on base 7 more times over the course of a season than Banks. And I guess that would translate to an OBP about 12 pts. higher for Yount than Banks. Viewed in those terms, that's not insignificant. And when you factor into account the increased double plays, Yount's defensive is significantly better than Banks'.
I have no idea which of the two is better. I used to think Banks was, at least in HR 1-20 parks. He does put up better production numbers, especially RBI's, consistently than Yount does. I've had both many times. The thing is the teams Banks are on don't bring home the rings. So I've come to prefer Yount for that purely pragmatic consideration. I'm pretty sure Nev (the real one) prefers Yount as well, PBTR too.