This Is Total BS
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by RICHARDMILTER » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:29 am
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by lafayette1 » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:28 am
Having played thousands of games as a youngster, now joining my first league this month with HAL, I have a few comments or reactions. My first reaction was that things seemed a little fishy when the three top teams , mine included, started to pull away in their division races, then ALL three went on horrendous, for them, losing streaks. Made me wonder about "HAL's" honor a bit. I thought, since this is a business, does the management tweak the outcomes to ensure closer races, to keep all engaged, and coming back for more seasons.
Now I read these comments. It's good to know, if it's true, that managers are putting time in to aid winning. I've put time in and have made some moves, so there may be some skill involved. I can't explain how my team which was near the top in ERA and hitting one week, suddenly gets manhandled by a 10-17, and 10-23 teams the next week- breaking all previous patterns, and the two other top teams also nosediving simultaneously. However, I won quite a few very close late inning games in the beginning which could have gone either way, and I DID pride myself at the time for creating such a strong squad, thinking the rest of the way would be a done deal, but I'm new at this scene.
The real game is odd too, as you all know. Boston coming back and beating the Janks down 3-0; the Cards becoming the first under .500 team to win the Series, the Rockies doing what they did, the Mets collapse last year, and on and on. And seemingly, the last few years in pro sports, you DO have a parity situation, where teams that get hot in the end often win it all. There aren't many dynasties any more, and maybe HAL is mimicking this factor in. With the wealth of talent in 12 team leagues, there is even more parity, and this is something you have to mentally adjust for when you see the results. A 12 team league that drafts from the entire 2007 player pool has a different dynamic than the full major leagues number of teams.
When I was a kid, and rolling the dice myself, maybe the outcomes seemed more assuring since they occurred in front of the players in real time. Maybe somehow, if the players now could view the games the next day, if they desired to, with the actual dice rolls from HAL, things would feel a little less nebulous. But seemingly, that function isn't provided by HAL. There used to be more control when playing the board game in areas such as relief pitching. You can put in who you want, when you want, without any mysterious computer making that move. There have been plenty of moves already in this area that I wouldn't have made. This could be remedied by HAL giving us more settings-like instead of a "short hook" you have a "Micro-hook", and more settings in all areas of the game.
Anyway, for $25 bucks, it's cheap entertainment for me, and I ain't gonna sweat it. I'll keep an eye on it, and make moves if I can. And with the coming Depression, we'll ALL be seeking CHEAP forms of entertainment. Lord knows, ever since "The Lords" of baseball made my beloved game into elite polo-priced contest, going to see the actual games live is a thing of the past. Next year the first row in the upper deck at the"new" Jankee Stadium will be priced at $135.00 BUCKS !
HAL and Strato may be the closest we'll ever get to having "The People's Game" within our grasp. . . good day gentlemen, and may the best man win.
Now I read these comments. It's good to know, if it's true, that managers are putting time in to aid winning. I've put time in and have made some moves, so there may be some skill involved. I can't explain how my team which was near the top in ERA and hitting one week, suddenly gets manhandled by a 10-17, and 10-23 teams the next week- breaking all previous patterns, and the two other top teams also nosediving simultaneously. However, I won quite a few very close late inning games in the beginning which could have gone either way, and I DID pride myself at the time for creating such a strong squad, thinking the rest of the way would be a done deal, but I'm new at this scene.
The real game is odd too, as you all know. Boston coming back and beating the Janks down 3-0; the Cards becoming the first under .500 team to win the Series, the Rockies doing what they did, the Mets collapse last year, and on and on. And seemingly, the last few years in pro sports, you DO have a parity situation, where teams that get hot in the end often win it all. There aren't many dynasties any more, and maybe HAL is mimicking this factor in. With the wealth of talent in 12 team leagues, there is even more parity, and this is something you have to mentally adjust for when you see the results. A 12 team league that drafts from the entire 2007 player pool has a different dynamic than the full major leagues number of teams.
When I was a kid, and rolling the dice myself, maybe the outcomes seemed more assuring since they occurred in front of the players in real time. Maybe somehow, if the players now could view the games the next day, if they desired to, with the actual dice rolls from HAL, things would feel a little less nebulous. But seemingly, that function isn't provided by HAL. There used to be more control when playing the board game in areas such as relief pitching. You can put in who you want, when you want, without any mysterious computer making that move. There have been plenty of moves already in this area that I wouldn't have made. This could be remedied by HAL giving us more settings-like instead of a "short hook" you have a "Micro-hook", and more settings in all areas of the game.
Anyway, for $25 bucks, it's cheap entertainment for me, and I ain't gonna sweat it. I'll keep an eye on it, and make moves if I can. And with the coming Depression, we'll ALL be seeking CHEAP forms of entertainment. Lord knows, ever since "The Lords" of baseball made my beloved game into elite polo-priced contest, going to see the actual games live is a thing of the past. Next year the first row in the upper deck at the"new" Jankee Stadium will be priced at $135.00 BUCKS !
HAL and Strato may be the closest we'll ever get to having "The People's Game" within our grasp. . . good day gentlemen, and may the best man win.
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by DizandMiles » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:40 pm
You pick your team and lineup and some guy with 4 digit manager rating gets Frisch and you get stuck with Boggs and no 2nd baseman - aside from that everything else is about equal -
you set your lineups, your strategy and you can figure that about 11-19 times HAL will do something really screwy to your relief pitching and/or substitutions
HAL rolls the dice (do you with more skill have some "magic control" on the dice when you play the board game?
You win 50, you lose 50 and it's all about the other 62
enjoy the day
you set your lineups, your strategy and you can figure that about 11-19 times HAL will do something really screwy to your relief pitching and/or substitutions
HAL rolls the dice (do you with more skill have some "magic control" on the dice when you play the board game?
You win 50, you lose 50 and it's all about the other 62
enjoy the day
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by Free Radicals » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:07 am
Wow ! This thread just won't die will it . It's the energizer bunny of threads : It keeps going and going and going and going . Time to put it to rest imo :wink:
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