Impressions of the new ATG game

[WGullett]

I have been looking over the new set and this is what I think about it.

First of all, strato was a game based on TEAMS and not individual players. Card "sets" did not include a picking and choosing of this players years or that players years, it was strictly based on teams. Now, TSN is attempting to glamorize the player set by adding and subtracting cards. Once again the game has been "improved" with an improvement that doesnt touch the spots that are actually in need of improvement. This is especially true when taking into consideration that the last player set was JUST implemented. An improvement in the form of a new player set isnt really an improvement.

Just looking at the player chart for 10 minutes here were the player changes that were implemented that I dont understand.

-Paul Waners over 680 AB card(1927) is changed to his 1934 season. What was wrong with his '27 card?

- Rod Carew. Just when they upgrade his lackluster card to a good first base card in the last version they change his card to his '73 year when he played 2nd. Im guessing his next version will be the DH card.

- Less expensive pitchers that a manager can bank on in certain parks(Dave Boswell,Louis Drucke, Ken Johnson for example) are not even in the game anymore. These guys with a combined salary of under 3 Mil were a combined 34-13 on my last team. We work hard to figure out these specialty guys and now they arent even in the next game. 400 players added and you have to take guys like these AWAY? On that same team I had Mossi, George Suggs and Sam Leever. NOW Suggs, Mossi, and Leever are starting pitchers. People become accusomed to certain guys and to change their cards to a differenf classification is frustrating.

-Certain "stars" are now playing different seasons. WHY would Denny McLains card be changed to 1969 instead of using his 31 win '68 season? Ron Guidrys card was changed from his monster year to a lesser card? Lolichs card was also switched from 1968 to a worse year? Jack Taylor, who I use with great success in previous sets, is now changed to a year with a losing record? Joe Wood who was a great guy for the cash as a backup with an almost .400 OB% is now using his pitcher card? Wheres Charley O' Leary? Mickey Stanley and Jim Northrup are gone from the new set. Then again, with over 400 new players I can draft Mickey Tettleton,Ed Brinkman, and Gil McDougald now so thats important.

The bottom line is that this is an "improvement" to generate revenue. This change doesnt help the manager. All that this player and season juggling does is make the manager have to figure it all out again. All previous info is mute. To reattain this info in the new set will require quite a bit of 5 packs. Thankfully we still have the last version still available to play and arent faced with only the new version to play. I admire Bernie for his hard work but until the real issues are improved we will be innundated with new player sets in lieu of improvements.

[geekor]

Look, I'm going to be harsh here, I apologize in advance...

... but are you Retarded? borderline?

It's a new GAME, what the hell did you expect? The cards change from 2006 to 2007, but I liked Abreu's old card... too bad. jebus F'ing what the hell do you want! It's a new game, it's not a v2 or 1.5, it's a new card set. We ALL have new cards to look over and figure out who are the bargains and who isn't. Get over yourself.

[RICHARDMILTER]

Geekor is right, although he did not have to be so rude. But of course you have to learn the cards all over again, that is what you do with a new set. And as far as them wanting to generate profits,....what business doesn't? Let's be thankful, and hopeful that they do make money, because if they did not ; this great game would disappear!!! And I (and I assume many others) would be very bummed out.
Also I am sure Bernie and his team(if he even has one) has worked very,very hard on this. So please give the man a break. He is trying to please everyone and that is impossible.
I am not even a big fan of the ATG(but I understand why people are)I like the individual year sets. And it is a damn shame more people are not playing seasons like 1986. Bernie and TSN gave us SO MANY FREE TEAMS(sorry for the caps...Geekor)and very few people have ponied up and payed to play for that set. I have already paid for two or three 1986 teams. I am getting a little off subject here but I hope they do not take it away from us. My overall point is; give TSN and Bernie a break, without this game I would be miserable! And by the way, I am not some shill for Bernie and TSN(I have never even met the man). Happy gaming to all!

[WGullett]

Blasts ME in the open forum and then when responded to in a message gets all bent out of shape(again). That is actually pretty funny. I challenged you to pick a league and back up what the crap you gave me by playing in the same league and you back down. You wont "play because I wont spend anymore money on their game and am livin off credits". Then you block me. What a simpleton you are. Can dish it out but the baby cant take it. I posted my opinion about the new game after explaining that it was an observation based on an initial look. Then Mr expert has to be an a$$. I stated my opinion and I just get ripped. Ripped by someone who refuses to buy more credits yet defends the game. THEN backs down from playing in a league. Must not be many of those credits left.