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Our Mystery Card games - The '70s Game, Back to the '80s, Back to the '90s

Postby Semper Gumby » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:06 pm

Let me check with the NFL officials on this one!

I think Oscar went after the serie's results ran :wink:

With only two injuries in the league last night ain't much to go on so Donald Trump can rest easy now.

Some interesting highlight's from last night's opening games:

[list:2c4ff58e42]SPs tossed seven (7) complete games

Canseco's triple

Alvin Davis collects five (5) walks

HAL plays one right - Sid Fernandez issues IBB to Willie Wilson (S) to face Steve Sax (McGee on 2B via error)

HAL issues two (2) IBBs to Greenwald to face Decinces (.400 BA) in consecutive ABs with the second IBB contributing to a six run inning.[/list:u:2c4ff58e42]
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Postby Apoptosis » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:35 pm

Stoddard pitched .3 innings for the Elves :wink:
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Postby Semper Gumby » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:25 pm

Damn ... Tim's audition lasted .3 innings?

I expect that "job security" ain't a plank for that team's strategic mission statement.

We'll see how long goes by before another shoe drops. :?
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Postby Apoptosis » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:53 pm

Gumby, I'm glad you're in this league you're hilarious :lol:
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Postby Semper Gumby » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:24 pm

Me?

I spent my $25 and I will get every penny out of it.

Along the way, I may even persuade one of the fence sitting owners to venture out and make a statement or two.

Otherwise, I hope to make this league down-right eventful. :D
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Postby Leo / loob » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:36 pm

Anybody know why the '83 '84 Ripken, and '80 Winfield cards have injuries? I am sure there are others, but I have Winfield injured on another team, and was checking to see what year(s) it could possibly be, and noticed in 80 he played 162 games, but still has an injury roll. So, then I went to the Iron Man himself, and he too(!) has injury rolls in two of his years

Whats up with that??
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Postby bjs73 » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:47 pm

[quote:8a7edaed05]Anybody know why the '83 '84 Ripken, and '80 Winfield cards have injuries? I am sure there are others, but I have Winfield injured on another team, and was checking to see what year(s) it could possibly be, and noticed in 80 he played 162 games, but still has an injury roll. So, then I went to the Iron Man himself, and he too(!) has injury rolls in two of his years

Whats up with that??[/quote:8a7edaed05]

Pretty sure that the Iron Man can only be injured for the rest of the game all things considered. Therefore his consecutive game streak should still be in effect. As far as why? I don't have a good answer for that.

It might be the same way with other players like Winfield and Dale Murphy who had 162 games logged during the season of their injury opportunity?
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Postby bjs73 » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:58 pm

[quote:7de623bfc8]Besides Yount's and Syke's collection of data, you clearly have a "buyer beware" mindset in drafting any player besides Brett and the high price others.[/quote:7de623bfc8]

Either that or people keep their strategies and true favorite players as close to their vest as possible. :D

I've been logging a Microsoft Access 97 database of all my teams and individual performances based on the stadium I played in just to see what kind of cards perform well and where. I admit that I was inspired to do it based on Sykes' .pdf file. Now that the true cards are revealed at the end of the season it makes this type of data gathering pretty darn useful.

I am doing mostly data entry right now but I'm over half way done. I've got one report that shows how many times I had player finish a season for me. So far, it shows that my most "popular" players to own are Billy Ripken and Frank Pastore. :shock: :roll: :lol:

Not that means anything really. It just shows that for whatever reason, during the first half of my career, I didn't mind having those two guys on my squad. I suspect that will all change as I put in the other half of my teams and start computing some real numbers.

I am hoping that I'll be able to get a better handle on good value cards and project stats for guys at certain stadiums. Who knows? At least I'm having a good time doing it.
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Postby Semper Gumby » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:05 am

When the game first came out, I logged a database as well but I don't believe that TSN revealed the "as played year" cards until recent history. If anything, you could bracket the performance between two years.

I went through one of my old teams to see how I fared with the estimates. I had a 75% success rate on narrowing two years and ~50% getting the correct year identified.

What skews your efforts is when the league does a complete refresh of players around the 21 / 42 / xxx game time frames. Division's can swing from heavy tilt to no tilt - which drives results upside down.

If anything, I will enjoy seeing how the player's actual card performs in a specific park.

Much written about limiting the BPHR hitters from pitcher parks or getting players that hit in a pitcher park et al.

I'm sure there is fact to that assumption but I haven't seen anyone toss out a few numbers to prove it.

For now ([b:3c095908a8] and it's very early[/b:3c095908a8]), I'm amazed that [b:3c095908a8]Manny Trillo[/b:3c095908a8] (RHB - .882 OPS vs. RHPs - 17 PAs) is out hitting [b:3c095908a8]Wade Boggs[/b:3c095908a8] (LHB - .388 OPS vs. RHPs - 19 PAs). :shock:
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Postby Semper Gumby » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:15 pm

BJS73,

Perhaps we can compare Access DBs at the season's end -

I'm still working with a few tables that pull lifetime season type stats but will work (at a slower pace) to incorporate actual splits for my team and maybe the teams that either impressed me by their design or how they did in the regular season.

The real gem is how the actual card plays in the TSN selected park with the division pitching bias. :idea:
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