ATG IV 16 event Franchise League

[rosenthm]

[quote:6b15e98da3]Just my opinion, but the league is call "Franchise League". No player should be on a team he didn't play for in real life. [/quote:6b15e98da3]

Maybe I totally misunderstood all the explanations, etc., but I didn't think we could have someone on our team that has not played some time for our franchise. Has there been some other rule change I didn't know about?

[buster j ratt]

[quote:dbfc4fc479="rosenthm"][quote:dbfc4fc479]Just my opinion, but the league is call "Franchise League". No player should be on a team he didn't play for in real life. [/quote:dbfc4fc479]

Maybe I totally misunderstood all the explanations, etc., but I didn't think we could have someone on our team that has not played some time for our franchise. Has there been some other rule change I didn't know about?[/quote:dbfc4fc479]

At this point it has only been questioned?

[Cubs48]

Totally agree that no one should be allowed to carry a player that has not played for your franchise....perhaps it's just a misunderstanding of the rules by some (me included)... :)

[jpgavin]

[quote:14a42d327f="buster j ratt"][quote:14a42d327f="rosenthm"][quote:14a42d327f]Just my opinion, but the league is call "Franchise League". No player should be on a team he didn't play for in real life. [/quote:14a42d327f]

Maybe I totally misunderstood all the explanations, etc., but I didn't think we could have someone on our team that has not played some time for our franchise. Has there been some other rule change I didn't know about?[/quote:14a42d327f]

At this point it has only been questioned?[/quote:14a42d327f]

To be honest, until yesterday I hadn't even considered the possibility. When we started this theme, the premise was that you could use any player that ever played for your franchise and then one of us would get to make a rule each season to help prevent things from becoming too redundant. I think we've been very successful in making an entertaining theme (too successful if you ask my wife :wink: ).

Apparently at least 2 managers interpreted the trade rule for this season to mean that once you claimed (drafted) a player eligible for your franchise, you could trade him to any franchise. From previous posts I think the idea was to try to encourage more trading.

Personally, I tend to be a purist about franchise leagues and I'd like to avoid having Ripken on the Cardinals etc... Unfortunately, it never occured to me that a rule might open up the possibility of players moving to a franchise for which they never played, so I never made a rule against it when I explained the ground rules for this theme :oops: .

It sounds like at least four other managers feel the same way I do. If two more weigh in on the same side of this issue, then I'd like to considered it put to rest.

Otherwise, if there's a strong feeling that trading is being too severely limited by the franchise rule then we'll do the following for all future seasons:

[b:14a42d327f]If a manager makes a rule that allows trading a player to a franchise for which that player has never played, that rule must be ratified by a majority vote (at least 7 managers, not just 3 of 5 weighing in on the issue) before the rule can go into effect. [/b:14a42d327f]

[rosenthm]

My two cents: I think a franchise theme league, needs to have all players that played for the franchise. I do not think that a rule can over ride that basic premise. The variation with cap, DH, and different rules provides plenty of variety.

Why has the draft come to a screetching halt?

[jpgavin]

Marge,

I agree with you entirely. And I don't know why the draft has stopped dead.

We just need Cubs48 (Twins) to protect 2 players in Round 5.

FAaron, if you're not taking someone carded to the Twins/Senators, feel free to pick

Round 6

FAaron (Reds) -
rosenthm (Giants) -
jpgavin (White Sox) -
andycummings (Phillies) -
ldanred (Orioles) -
Cubs48 (Twins) -
Pjatscfy (Braves) -
majicmg (Indians) -
Novie (Pirates) -
buster j ratt (Tigers) -
AeroDave10 (Cubs) -
2cityfan (Cardinals) -

[jpgavin]

Can anyone explain why Eddie Collins costs more the $1.5 mil more than Joe Morgan? Am I missing something here?

[andycummings65]

My vote:

Franchise League=players that have played for that franchise

[AeroDave10]

[quote:fb37908810="jpgavin"]Can anyone explain why Eddie Collins costs more the $1.5 mil more than Joe Morgan? Am I missing something here?[/quote:fb37908810]

50 point advantage in BA, 15 point advantage in OBP, slightly better steal rating, better bunt rating, a few less errors. Those are the advantages I see.

[Cubs48]

2cityfan (Cardinals)
1. Johnny Mize
1. Dizzy Dean
2. Roger Maris
3. Jerry Reuss
4. Reggie Smith
5. John Tudor
5. Matty Alou

AeroDave10 (Cubs)
1. Ron Santo
1. Kiki Cuyler
2. Benito Santiago
3. Burleigh Grimes
4. Goose Gossage
5. Riggs Stephenson
5. Jim Hickman

buster j ratt (Tigers)
1. Denny McLain
1. Rocky Colavito
2. Eddie Cicotte
3. Bill Monbouquette
4. Billy Pierce
5. Archie McKain
5. Harvey Kuenn

Novie (Pirates)
1. Max Carey
1. Lloyd Waner
2. Chuck Klein
3. Hank Greenberg
4. Freddie Lindstrom
5. Paul Waner
5. Roy Face

majicmg (Indians)
1. Nap Lajoie
1. Larry Doby
2. Frank Robinson
3. Albert Belle
4. Stan Coveleski
5. Luke Sewell
5. Ray Chapman

Pjatscfy (Braves)
1. Eddie Mathews
1. Billy Hamilton
2. Al Simmons
3. Joe Torre
4. Earl Averill
5. Ron Gant
5. Irv Young

Cubs48 (Twins)
1. Dean Chance
1. Joe Cronin
2. Ed Delahanty
3. Goose Goslin
4. Gary Gaetti
5. Jim Kaat
5. Joe Judge

ldanred (Orioles)
1. George Sisler
1. Bobby Grich
2. Reggie Jackson
3. Rube Waddell
4 Rogers Hornsby.
5. Ken Singleton
5. Ken Williams

andycummings (Phillies)
1. Pete Alexander
1. Steve Carlton
2. Elmer Flick
3. Bucky Walters
4. Dale Murphy
5. Gene GArber
5. LArry Bowa

jpgavin (White Sox)
1. Dick Allen
1. Joe Jackson
2. Jim O'toole
3. Ben Chapman
4. Ray Schalk
5. Doc White
5. Minnie Minoso

rosenthm (Giants)
1. Orlando Cepeda
1. Felipe Alou
2. Red Ames
3. Don McMahon
4. Sid Gordon
5. Billy O'Dell
5. Matt Williams

FAaron (Reds)
1. Ted Kluszewski
1. Joe Morgan
2. Jim Bottomley
3. Harry Heilmann
4. Chick Hafey
5. Dolpf Luque
5. Roy McMillan