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Postby GFDWARF07 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:03 am

GO CityFan - pick a franchise and stadium they played in...

Has anyone heard from him?
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Postby genegrid » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:10 am

I assumed Tex-Exp would be part of the Was senators franchise so I guess I need clarification. Are the St.Louis Browns/Orioles teams a franchise? How about Boston/Mil/Atlanta Braves?

Please list the eligible franchises.
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Postby GFDWARF07 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:52 am

Texas is a stand alone, though they have Frank Howard from the '67 Senators. They also have Knowles from the "New" Senators that replaced the old Senators franchise that moved to MN in '61.

All of the WAS (db, pre- and post-) groups go with MIN-exp.

Yes, Browns/Orioles is a franchise.

As is Phil-db/pre/KC-post/Oak-exp Athletics - that is a tricky one (basically KC-exp is another stand-alone - just the Royals).

Also Boston/Mil/Atlanta Braves is a group.
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Postby visick » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:57 am

Just assuming this...

ATL/MIL
Baltimore/SLB
Boston
Brooklyn
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
Cincy
Cleveland
Detroit
NY Giants/ SF Giants
Philly
Phil A's/Oakland A's
Pitt
St. Louis Cards
Washington/Minn

Someone please clarify...
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FRANCHISE GROUPINGS

Postby GFDWARF07 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:22 pm

Just a couple clarifications - added BSB to the Braves and KC-post to the Athletics.

BSB-db/pre, MIL-post, Atl-exp
Baltimore/SL Browns/Orioles
Boston Red Sox
Brooklyn/LA Dodgers
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
Cincy Reds
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
NY Giants/ SF Giants
Philly Phillies
Phil A's/KC A's (KC-post)/Oakland A's
Pitt Pirates
St. Louis Cards
Washington/Minn Senators/Twins

then we added these two extras:

SD-exp/NYM-exp/Mon-exp plus choice of Cal/Mil/Sea (all exp)

Tor-exp/Tex-exp/KC-exp - plus choice of Cal/Mil/Sea (all exp)
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Postby rschwartz51 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:30 pm

I'm fine with what's proposed.

However, if I had been doing it which has been the case as I'm a commish in many numerous Franchise leagues I would have just done NL Expansion Teams and AL Expansion Teams.
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Postby GFDWARF07 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:39 pm

That's basically what we have with the exception of the wild card exp teams...

Then Sea and Cal would go to AL and Mil to the NL? Even tho Mil-exp has been both AL and NL...

not proposing a change, just curious how you've done it in the past.
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RESPONSE

Postby rschwartz51 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:17 pm

That's basically what we have with the exception of the wild card exp teams...

Then Sea and Cal would go to AL and Mil to the NL? Even tho Mil-exp has been both AL and NL...
not proposing a change, just curious how you've done it in the past.

I've run 12 team 12 season all teams played once with a $150M cap, DH.
In all cases players were assigned based on a few players being placed on franchises they played for vs carded with a emphasis on competitive balance being met and to provide equity over multiple Themes.

Examples, sometimes Foxx is on Boston vs the A's. The A's are left out so the White Sox could get Collins and Simmons; Grove the Red Sox and Cochrane to Detroit.

I've run Themes where Milw Brewers and Texas were assigned to the Braves and Senators respectively due to the fact that their linkeage is so directly related to those franchises as well as leaving them out.

Themes have been set up with a lower cap for hardly used franchises and even then you have to assign players to provide balance.

IMO the ATG4 pricing really is unfair in the the modern set is put together differently vs prior to Expansion. They went out of their way to put average years for many modern day players vs the older set where the better years were used more often.

I'm sure the reason is to protect their other games but you have numerous allstars with barely useable cards in the modern set. Therefore, those Expansion franchises just can't compete with legendary franchise.
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STATUS

Postby GFDWARF07 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:31 pm

SO, this is still where we are at - next step: Cub48 decide if you want to keep the Giants (given the expansion groupings) - then 2city fan is up. Let's 'git 'er done.....


1. - Cubs48 - N.Y/S.F Giants (Polo '57)
2. - 2cityfan
3. – sdajr76
4. - BOBSCHWARTZ22
5. - ironwill1
6. - DonFESQ
7. - Frank M
8. - jpgavin
9. - visick
10.- joeygesq
11. - Genegrid
12. - gfdwarf07
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Postby Cubs48 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:19 pm

I'm good.... :)
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