ATG IV 16 event Franchise League

Postby AeroDave10 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:48 am

Individual player draft
ROUND 1

1. buster j ratt (Indians) - Jimmy Piersall
2. Pjatscfy (Twins) - Johnny Klippstein
3. Cubs48 (A's) -Max Bishop
4. 2cityfan (Red Sox ) - Tom Seaver
5. jpgavin (Cardinals) - Jesse Haines
6. errormagnate (Giants) -Lefty O'Doul
7. AeroDave (Pirates) - Jack Chesbro
8. FAaron (White Sox)
9. andycummings (Reds)
10. rosenthm (Braves)
11. novie (Yankees)
12. majicmg (Cubs)
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Postby pjatscfy52 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:11 am

I'm confused. During this individual draft, can you draft anyone who was ever played for your team, or do they need at least 200 IP?

Seaver was picked by the Red Sox, and he only threw 104 innings.
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2cityfan must pick again ...

Postby AeroDave10 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:16 am

[quote:3b65cf0abb="Pjatscfy"]I'm confused. During this individual draft, can you draft anyone who was ever played for your team, or do they need at least 200 IP?

Seaver was picked by the Red Sox, and he only threw 104 innings.[/quote:3b65cf0abb]

You're not confused. You're absolutely right. 2cityfan [u:3b65cf0abb][b:3b65cf0abb]cannot[/b:3b65cf0abb][/u:3b65cf0abb] select Tom Seaver during this supplemental draft. He can nab him in the autodraft if the Reds or White Sox don't claim him in this 6 round draft.

Thank you for noticing this error!! I double-checked all the other selections, and they are all fine.
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Postby AeroDave10 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:17 am

Individual player draft
ROUND 1

1. buster j ratt (Indians) - Jimmy Piersall
2. Pjatscfy (Twins) - Johnny Klippstein
3. Cubs48 (A's) -Max Bishop

[size=18:ef9547e197][b:ef9547e197]4. 2cityfan (Red Sox ) - [/b:ef9547e197][/size:ef9547e197]

5. jpgavin (Cardinals) - Jesse Haines
6. errormagnate (Giants) -Lefty O'Doul
7. AeroDave (Pirates) - Jack Chesbro
8. FAaron (White Sox)
9. andycummings (Reds)
10. rosenthm (Braves)
11. novie (Yankees)
12. majicmg (Cubs)
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League 7 draft question

Postby majicmg » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:46 am

Aero: You didn't spell out the specifics regarding the draft. Is it serpentine, giving everyone a balanced shot at players, or straight, in which those of us with late-round picks are screwed repeatedly?
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Re: League 7 draft question

Postby AeroDave10 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:50 am

[quote:f06b8f5f34="majicmg"]Aero: You didn't spell out the specifics regarding the draft. Is it serpentine, giving everyone a balanced shot at players, or straight, in which those of us with late-round picks are screwed repeatedly?[/quote:f06b8f5f34]

I apologize if I didn't mention that, but yes, like 99.9% of drafts on SOM, it is serpentine.
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Thanks Pjatscfy and AeroDave

Postby FAaron » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:00 am

I was going to point out the Tom Seaver/Red Sox issue, but was concerned because I am an interested party in this matter, since I can pick Seaver in this round and intend to when my time comes (I guess this also constitutes a proxy).
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Postby novie » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:01 am

FAaron... cap is no issue at all. When looking at the rules as they were and the intended "small ball" theme, being forced into spending 21% of the cap on 2 players was a HUGE issue. I uncovered other options and thus all is well.

However, the issue about one team not having to use all "1" defensive players due to not having one, yet everyone else has to, is *******. It's the responsibility of the creator of the rules to make sure EVERY team can comply with them. Aero you failed at this task... and instead of going back and re-examining your rule, you took the easy way out and made an exception for one team. And if the "spirit" of the rule is defense, then why is it that the Twins have the option of using any "2" rated 2B and not be forced to use the BEST rated one? Other teams are being forced to use a certain "1" rated fielder because they have no other choice, so why should the Twins be given an option?

What if in an upcoming season, a rule is every team has to use all "4" defensive players and one team doesn't have an eligible SS or C... would it be ok to just allow them to use any "3" instead?

Would the sentiments you expressed about the Twins being the team be the same if it were the Yankees or some other "talent rich" teamand they had the option of using a Maris or Banks or Mathews as a 2? Somehow I doubt it.
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Postby AeroDave10 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:14 am

[quote:d127af6d40="Novie"] instead of going back and re-examining your rule, you took the easy way out and made an exception for one team. [/quote:d127af6d40]

I did re-examine the rule and stated that if you did not have a 1, you needed to start a low e-rated 2, and this caveat only applied to one manager.

[quote:d127af6d40="Novie"]What if in an upcoming season, a rule is every team has to use all "4" defensive players and one team doesn't have an eligible SS or C... would it be ok to just allow them to use a "3" instead? [/quote:d127af6d40]

If the manager who created the rule said that was ok, then yes.

[quote:d127af6d40="Novie"]Would the sentiments you expressed about the Twins being the team be the same if it were the Yankees and they had the option of using Maris in the OF as a 2? Somehow I doubt it.[/quote:d127af6d40]

This is illogical. The number of players available to the teams (w/o service time restrictions) is constant.
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Apologies to the league for my mistake

Postby 2cityfan » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:30 am

Individual player draft
ROUND 1

1. buster j ratt (Indians) - Jimmy Piersall
2. Pjatscfy (Twins) - Johnny Klippstein
3. Cubs48 (A's) -Max Bishop

4. 2cityfan (Red Sox ) - Everett Scott

5. jpgavin (Cardinals) - Jesse Haines
6. errormagnate (Giants) -Lefty O'Doul
7. AeroDave (Pirates) - Jack Chesbro
8. FAaron (White Sox)
9. andycummings (Reds)
10. rosenthm (Braves)
11. novie (Yankees)
12. majicmg (Cubs)
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