Clutch rule option?

Postby 1crazycanuk » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:32 am

I don't even believe in clutch. A hit is a hit no matter when it is hit.
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Clutch

Postby emart » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:50 am

What SOM calls the "clutch" rating (or the symbols used and the effect they have) has nothing at all to do with a player's ability (or lack of) hitting in clutch situations. This aspect of the cards is an RBI equalizer, which assists the game in accurately reproducing the performance of any given player.

The cards are designed to reproduce, as closely as possible, the statistics of any given player over the course of the season in question, within the conditions that the player experienced that year. The cards are (supposedly) designed so that, if one were to simulate a full season with all the cards and using super advanced rules, the result would be substantially similar to the production of any player. This is why some managers dislike the SOM clutch rating so much, as it has nothing to do with clutch.

The result of this adjustment is that some players will be worth more, others less, when "clutch" is turned off. Its simply another option for customized game configuration.

I learned about this from reading other posts in the past.

Thanks, Bernie.
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Postby stlouisnathan » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:35 pm

It means that some players will hit better that others with two outs and runner(s) in scoring position. If you don't call that clutch then I don't care what you call it. RBI producers are valuable and I like the fact that this is taken into consideration in making the individual player's cards.
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Postby 1crazycanuk » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:50 pm

I wouldn't call that clutch. I'd call it "hitting".
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Postby bleacher_creature » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:35 pm

[quote:223747556b]bc...this is God. I did. [/quote:223747556b]

Are we having a relapse back into our Old Testament personality? I thought we dealt with al of that.
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Postby bleacher_creature » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:47 pm

[quote:dbfaa55de8="stlouisnathan"]It means that some players will hit better that others with two outs and runner(s) in scoring position. If you don't call that clutch then I don't care what you call it. RBI producers are valuable and I like the fact that this is taken into consideration in making the individual player's cards.[/quote:dbfaa55de8]

Thank you.

-does anyone know if Richman & Co. measure a players RBI opportunities in this regard? For example, Kevin Millar on the 2004 Red Sox would have had far more than Raul Ibanez on the M's.

-doesn't this also mean that the factor DOES RELATE to a players true clutch hitting? In other words a guy who failed measurably in clutch situations through a year would have negative clutch symobols no?

The 2001 M's were insane in the clutch. Their slogan was "TWO OUT, SO WHAT". This team scored a lot of runs, despite not having a lot of power. Night in and night out I watched them come back getting a key hit when it counted.

Clutch hitting teams DO get hits with two out. That is often the difference in a ballgame is how many two out hits a team gets. It stands to reason since out will often move runners into scoring position.

Baseball 101 IMO.
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Postby 1crazycanuk » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:12 pm

[quote:f348652c5f="bleacher_creature"][quote:f348652c5f]bc...this is God. I did. [/quote:f348652c5f]

Are we having a relapse back into our Old Testament personality? I thought we dealt with al of that.[/quote:f348652c5f]

Huh? :? You forgot to include "j/k" in your quote. I really have no idea what you mean.

As for your next post...baseball 101 in my opinion is that a hit is a hit is a hit. Whenever it's hit it is a hit. Shall we also include a stat for base hits with a runner on 2nd, 2 outs, and a glare in the batter's eyes based on the position of the sun in the sky??? How about OBP for each time a player spits and it lands ON the base? :shock:
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Postby bleacher_creature » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:39 pm

If you really [i:9bd1bb2c93]ARE[/i:9bd1bb2c93] God Canuck, you would have known that [i:9bd1bb2c93]I[/i:9bd1bb2c93] was j/k :lol: .

:?

Don't go all Todd Bertuzzi on me now bro.

A hit is not just a hit. Bill James proved that with science.
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Postby 1crazycanuk » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:15 pm

bc, that is true. I would have known you were kidding. But I didn't really claim to be God b/c I put "j/k". :D Anyway...not gonna go Todd Bertuzzi on you. I didn't know you were kidding.

I don't know...I just believe that a hit is a hit.
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