Am I missing something here?

[ROBERTSTEVELY]

Can somebody explain why Speece got credit for the win instead of Frock?

And Two Duds.... 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 3 - 6 14 1
Videos............... 0 2 2 1 0 8 0 2 x - 15 20 1
Win:Speece(1-0) Loss:Clancy(0-3)




Videos IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA
S.Carlton 3 3 1 1 0 0 0 45 3.48
S.Frock 5 2/3 10 5 4 0 1 0 92 5.32
B.Speece WIN(1-0) 0 1/3 1 0 0 1 0 0 8 10.12
Totals 9 14 6 5 1 1 0

[MATTSCHMIDT]

Because HAL is stupid when it comes to awarding wins when the starter doesn't go 5 innings. He usually gives the win to the pitcher who gave up the least runs.

[egvrich]

A starting pitcher CANNOT earn a win unless he goes at least 5 innings.

[ROBERTSTEVELY]

I knew the SP rule...just odd Frock, who came in in relief, goes 5 2/3 and gets hosed out of a win by a guy who got 1 out.

[Jacob]

You think that's bad? That's nothing:
http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/atg2/league/boxscore.html?group_id=15234&g_id=493

Dawley comes into the game in the 6th inning with the score 17-0, final score 21-2 and gets a SAVE????? I'd love to hear the explanation of *that* one!

[durantjerry]

I forget the exact wording, but if a reliever pitches three innings to close out a game he gets a save regardless of the score.

[TomP]

Actually, in real baseball, the MLB official scorer makes the decision which pitcher is credited with the win. A 1/3 of an inning may be a little extreme, but technically Speece was the most effective pitcher. Below is the MLB rule.

WINNING AND LOSING PITCHER

10.19 (a) Credit the starting pitcher with a game won only if he has pitched at least five complete innings and his team not only is in the lead when he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game.

(b) The "must pitch five complete innings" rule in respect to the starting pitcher shall be in effect for all games of six or more innings. In a five inning game, credit the starting pitcher with a game won if he has pitched at least four complete innings and his team not only is in the lead when he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game.

(c) When the starting pitcher cannot be credited with the victory because of the provisions of 10.19 (a) or (b) and more than one relief pitcher is used, the victory shall be awarded on the following basis:

(1) When, during the tenure of the starting pitcher, the winning team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game, credit the victory to the relief pitcher judged by the scorer to have been the most effective;

[boss_of_um]

Dawley pitched 4 innings and never gave up the lead (it would have been really bad had he done so). I believe one of the ways to get a save is to pitch 4 innings and keep your team in the lead.

[TomP]

Here's the save rule for those if us who are obsessive and have nothing better to do on a Saturday morning.

Saves:
Rule 10.20 in the Official Rule Book states:
Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions:
(1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and
(2) He is not the winning pitcher; and
(3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions:
- (a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or
- (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces; or
- (c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.