Summer of 69 - ROUND 3 - DRAFT IN PROGRESS - GO, GO, GO!

[GFDWARF07]

We will be set-up as a $200M league - so the autodraft will be fine. This is a very common occurrence in these drafts by my experience.

I didn't read all these in detail as my connection is very slow, but I will tell you that I went over knowingly (though I have not drafted my 25th player yet, so technically I am still below), just because I planned to drop my final pick to get to the cap. In our $25M league someone even drafted McCovey with the final pick. I don't see where it makes much difference as long as you are at the cap by gametime. We are talking about the 24-25th players here.

I can understand not wanting to take a player off the market unfairly. If I do that I will trade him to the next person in line that wanted him or add/drop him during the frenzy (Yes, Bill frenzy, please).

Sorry if the cap thing caused any heartburn, but how much planning got thrown off by this? I will skip my last pick if people prefer. I have proxies set up now (as requested by most of you) so if it fires I am sorry.

But let's move on. Or penalize me my #1 pick? :roll:

[franky35]

why is this 200 mil? the 60 mil option would be easier since we wouldn't need to monitor the cap all season long.

just drop a player and pick a couple 0.5 bodies, then drop them during waivers to get to a 24 man roster.

[GFDWARF07]

OK, I have a ballpark set to fire in round 25 and will simply skip my 26th pick. Then I will be UNDER the cap. I cannot imagine this being a problem.

I will not be able to access again all day so if Risden can just enter a "skip" for my 26th pick it would keep everyone moving or e-mail me Bob. Or Bill can text me too. I have already got my autodraft sheet filled out except for a stadium. I will need to enter a 25th player and will take McCovey unless someone wants him. If you're lucky I will have good luck fishing, be in a good mood and will drop him after the autodraft runs. :lol:

Guess we have something new to clarify next time around!

[GFDWARF07]

You know, Franky, I forgot there even was a 60M option for leagues :oops: - that is fine - let's do that and then I will leave one of my higher paid guys off my draft list and add him later (I will add 2 0.5M undrafted scrubs - other can do the same). Just don't draft any drafted players!

[Rjnewman]

I can speak for Gordie and I. If we knew we could go over cap and then drop a guy it would have given us more to spend on these late picks. Big difference between Lahoud and Kranepool whom i would have taken. It does hurt us a bit for following the rules. We are already rookies at this level only having done 200 and 100 million...

[AllStarInc]

RJ, I respectfully disagree...there isn't a "big difference" between Lahoud and Kranepool. That's why one is priced at .70 and the other is priced at .50.

Please remember, you'll be able to play with your roster after teams have loaded. There are LOTS of other first basemen available if you want to ditch Lahoud and another .50 player to pick up a guy near 1.0m.

You can probably get a guy even BETTER than Kranepool after the teams are loaded. And if Kranepool was SO pivotal, maybe you could have taken him instead of somebody else earlier?

Lots of these guys being taken at the end of the draft will not be on the team after loading.

If this was a $25m league, I could MAYBE see this being a SLIGHT factor.

Please don't take offense to this post, it's not meant to be an attack. You seem like a great guy and I love the way you are into this stuff.

After you and Gordie, I think I'm the newest player (rating-wise anyway). I'm still learning too. But I'm just trying to express my opinion in regards to this issue, and I really don't believe it's a big deal.

[Rjnewman]

It is however definitely an advantage if you can buy a million dollar player instead of a 500K as part of your draft strategy, go over and then cut your 500 k guy taken later. Leaves the guys following the rules thinking only 500k guys can be drafted taking slightly lesser players to stay under cap. Are we saying we can go over and then cut back under?If so can I drop a player and add one at a higher price now in anticipation of cutting 500 k guy after?If it makes no diff then I can just press drop and grab a guy 400 k higher that is available. It is definitely an advantage all be it small. Hopefully I am good enough so the "disadvantage" will not effect my performance LOL. I would have thought Gdwarf and Smith and any other veterans having played hundreds of times would no better and assumed they only reason they might go over is because they were using proxies to help speed things up. If that is the case I dont mind. If it is a strategy then it really isnt right. Like you said though its not a huge deal and I am a lot more worried about wen the FED is going to have to jack up rates!

[LMBombers]

I don't think everyone is playing by the same rules here. It is not right for some teams to be reserving players that they can't possibly put on their AD card ahead of time and then expecting them to be their player after the AD runs while other people were drafting for a legal AD card of 25 players under 60M. Is it a huge problem....no, but at the same time it is playing by a different set of rules than the rest of us. It is like reserving your #1 waiver selection ahead of time (before waivers).

No one should be skipping a player pick in this draft and drafting McCovey as your last pick would really be thumbing your nose at the rest of us.

[franky35]

I'm under the cap, so this doesn't effect me, but I don't see a problem with teams drafting for a 24 man roster. People here are generally honest, so I believe that they'll "release" a player for the autodraft and pick him up by waivers. So, I think we should operate on the honor system, each owner that drafts for a 24 man roster needs to make the correct waiver claim asap. This will not significantly affect competition.

I agree however, that drafting McCovey is in bad taste - but with a 60 mil cap, HAL won't allow that. I suggest that teams drafting over the cap intentionally select really bad 0.50 players that they will cut immediately (i.e., not a player they could be tempted to keep).

With unemployment near 10% and foreclosures near record highs, the Fed won't be jacking up rates any time soon. So relax.

[AllStarInc]

Dan's intentions of drafting McCovey (a player NOBODY can use) was just drafting a player he CLEARLY isn't keeping as opposed to taking another .50 player that others might actually want.

That's all. I'm sure it's not a matter of "thumbing his nose" at anybody.