BLATANT Cheating???? - REVISED II

[LMBombers]

Being over the salary cap is not the owner's fault. He obviously had an AD card of 80M or below. Due to the lack of 75¢ players at some positions like OF he can miss on some players and be given higher priced players (the lowest available salary at that position).

It is to the owner's DISADVANTAGE to be over the cap in a mystery card league since he can't make one transaction without first complying with the salary cap. How often can you go through a mystery card season happy with every single player card you end up with? I'd say not very many.

Don't worry about him being over the cap right now. It is to his disadvantage, not yours.

[LMBombers]

In a 2008 league I went for a backup C where C is not his primary position and missed him. As a replacement I got a non-catcher so I only had McCann as the only C on my roster. Well I set my waiver priority and was shocked :shock: to find out that none of my claims were processed because my very first claim was not for a backup C, therefore any other claim would not leave me with a valid roster. At first I was pissed and embarassed :evil: :oops: all at the same time. Interestingly enough I was able to pick up players AFTER waivers ran without picking up another C. I decided not to pick up a backup C and take advantage of the rule about your last C cannot become injured making McCann an ironman.

About half way through the season McCann has not been injured one time so I guess this works. Is it cheating? I don't think so since I lost out on all the players during waivers. I would never intentionally try to do this again since I don't think it is to my benefit overall.

[scorehouse]

you are overreacting. let's say he drops reggie Jackson a 9 mil player, with the 5% and the 3.1 mil excess, he can only pick up a replacement for around 5 mil. from the players on his team i wouldn't want that handicap.

[scorehouse]

since he didn't participate in waivers, a few teams got players he might have sought. with 2 9mil players on his team, if both bust he's in real trouble.

[ROBERTLATORRE]

You know what, yep, I am overreacting, the salary cap is just a "suggested" rule.

Got it. Clear on that one now.

Any other "suggested" rules I should know about?

[RICHARDMILTER]

Yeah, I am with Latorrer on this one. A rule is a rule. If TSN can not enforce the SIMPLEST rules, what is even the point of following them,...or even playing???? I can not believe some of you think this is NOT a big deal? What next, let Mariano Rivera start and pitch nine innings????

[ROBERTLATORRE]

[quote:140b966daf="rmilter"]Yeah, I am with Latorrer on this one. A rule is a rule. If TSN can not enforce the SIMPLEST rules, what is even the point of following them,...or even playing???? I can not believe some of you think this is NOT a big deal? What next, let Mariano Rivera start and pitch nine innings????[/quote:140b966daf]

With these new bullpen rules, who the heck knows, maybe there's a loophole where you could start him all 162???

Kind of like a PS3 cheat code (L1 L1 L2 L2 Up Up Right Triangle Square Circle....presto you get all the best seasons on the mystery card game for your team!!!)

We're in the minority rmilter. Almost everyone in the league that has commented on it is fine with it. I just don't see it that way.

[coyote303]

[quote:410e08a0c8="latorrer"]You know what, yep, I am overreacting, the salary cap is just a "suggested" rule.

Got it. Clear on that one now.

Any other "suggested" rules I should know about?[/quote:410e08a0c8]

Go back and read the rule that voovits quotes, specifically "You [b:410e08a0c8]can[/b:410e08a0c8] put your account back in the black by releasing players."

I does not say you must; it says you can. In other words, it's optional. You may not like the rule, but that is the rule.

The fact that it's a mystery card team means--as others have pointed out--that it's unlikely it will be to his benefit anyway. If Hebner, Hoerner, Ellis, or others get their stinker year, the "advantage" evaporates as they become liabilities.

Regardless, even if every player gets an okay card, this is not--by rule--cheating.

Quoting rmilter now...
[quote:410e08a0c8]What next, let Mariano Rivera start and pitch nine innings????[/quote:410e08a0c8]

Welll, quite possibly yes. If the manager has a 5-man rotation (no SP*) and they only have the required 5 starters on his roster, due to an injury a closer might get to start and might go 9 innings. It has happened, though possibly not with Rivera.

[ROBERTLATORRE]

[quote:16b1654278="coyote303"]
Regardless, even if every player gets an okay card, this is not--by rule--cheating.
[/quote:16b1654278]

Coyote, my interest in the game is to play within the spirit of the rules. Loopholes are for attorneys, and while FAaron (an attorney) is one of my favorite managers to play against (hi Fred) it doesn't have a place here, in my opinion (albeit not the popular one).

[coyote303]

[quote:653225672d="latorrer"][quote:653225672d="coyote303"]
Regardless, even if every player gets an okay card, this is not--by rule--cheating.
[/quote:653225672d]

Coyote, my interest in the game is to play within the spirit of the rules. Loopholes are for attorneys, and while FAaron (an attorney) is one of my favorite managers to play against (hi Fred) it doesn't have a place here, in my opinion (albeit not the popular one).[/quote:653225672d]

I don't have a problem if you say this is against the spirit of the game. However, keep in mind that is your opinion. Some agree with that opinion and others don't. It's a gray area.

It's actually a good discussion because every game has it's own rules beyond the rules. For example, certain behavior that's perfectly acceptable in poker will get you thrown out of a bridge tournament.

However, to accuse someone of "blatant cheating" does bother me. Such an accusation should not be made lightly, especially when it is a gray area.