24 TKL chat

[thisisray]

not really a huge advantage...

[qksilver69]

Ray - strongly disagree in the sense that at the end of the 1st round, very hard to get 2 cards that will be really good both in 2009 & 2010. Very easy to do what you did - get an elite card for both years with pick 1, and a very solid card for both years with picks 2 & 3.

When I looked at the draft, the clear strategy for end of Round 1 was to sacrifice 2009 for a better shot to compete at 2010.

In other terms - number of elite cards for both years is probably around 18, but the difference in quality between picks 19-100 is much less, when looking at 2-year value, than the dropoff after pick 18.

I.e. 2-year value on Pujols roughly 28M, Span 10M, Yunel 10M. $48M value on 2 yrs for your 1st 3 picks.

Let's say I maxed out & drafted Holliday, Zobrist and Peavy (14M, 12M, 10M) - I get to 36-40M depending on where there cards end up but with nowhere near the youth/upside you have, and I don't gain much with my 4th pick over your 4th, the difference in 2-yr value gets progressively less.

This is why in the NFL draft, the teams all use a weighted system which gives a point value to the 1st pick through the last pick. GMs will not trade picks in the draft unless the point value of the picks being traded is roughly equivalent, and there is no way in hell a team will trade 2 picks at the end of Rnd 1/beginning of Rnd 2 for the 1st overall pick, or even any in the top 5. Same concept here, if you think there is no difference in drafting 1st vs last in Rnd 1, you're way undervaluing the elite picks. The snake draft does not come close to making up that value.

[tcochran]

I agree with qksilver's analysis. The reason for my question was simply a practical one, though. In this draft at pick #19 I have focused on fielding, OBP, and speed -- and will end up with a barely adequate pitching staff.

In reverse order for the prospect draft, I will have pick #6, which means I will be able to find a starting pitcher for next year (which I will desperately need).

[cshannajr]

We weren't going to have a prospect draft this year, initially. But because of this being a 24 team league, it seemed to make sense to try and even it out a little by have a prospect draft now. So, after that long-winded explanation, the answer is yes. The prospect draft will be in reverse order of the current player draft.

[kaviksdad]

Carlos Quentin has somehow been dropped from JLaw's roster. The draft site shows an empty slot at pick 149

[kaviksdad]

[quote:12ba974718="kaviksdad"]Carlos Quentin has somehow been dropped from JLaw's roster. The draft site shows an empty slot at pick 149[/quote:12ba974718]

And now Quentin has been picked again by Mcc09.

We have a problem Chuck

[johnlaw1564]

I tried to change pick from Quentin to Fontenot while I was on the road without success. He still showed on my roster so I didn't continue. J Law

[cshannajr]

[quote:f0a037eda6="John Law"]I tried to change pick from Quentin to Fontenot while I was on the road without success. He still showed on my roster so I didn't continue. J Law[/quote:f0a037eda6]

I contacted MCC09 and he going to drop Quentin right away and pick someone else. John, please try to pick Quentin again.

I assume you tried to drop him and pick Fontenot during that selection, correct?

[cshannajr]

John please check your pm.

[kaviksdad]

Shouldn't there be a rule that once picked you're stuck with them?

With 24 guys picking, any drops during the draft could lead to bigger issues.