Negro League Card Set Available

[RICHARDMILTER]

No not at all Charlie. I am refering to LM Bombers post justifying slavery on the basis that some of our founding fathers owned slaves. Your original post and ALL YOUR posts are not offensive AT ALL!

However, the word, "Negro" is a bit dated and awkward. But that is what those baseball leagues were called.

[RICHARDMILTER]

Thanks Charlie!

[durantjerry]

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[keyzick]

For the record, I also think baseball's segragationist period was also a very sad time for baseball. As Charliewb says, they had a chance to take a stand and do the right thing, and failed.

I also do NOT think for a second that LMBombers intent was to justify slavery by any means.

In fact Milter, your incendiary reaction to LM's post has gone much farther to producing a divisive culture on this site. You wrote the following:

[quote:b45eda8bb2="rmilter"]However, the word, "Negro" is a bit dated and awkward. But that is what those baseball leagues were called.[/quote:b45eda8bb2]

That statement pretty much echoes LM's quote:

[quote:b45eda8bb2="LMBombers"]you have to consider historical events in context with the times as they were.[/quote:b45eda8bb2]

Sounds to me like you're being a bit of hypocrite

Try some patience and understanding when others express an opinion different from your own. Threatening to beat someone into a bloody pulp is a little extreme....THAT should not be tolerated.

[genegrid]

Wanted to read about this great rollout and walked into the podium/bullpen! I ordered the CD-rom for $27 yesterday. Looking forward to playing an all time greats league with 2 AL, 2 NL and 2 Negro teams. Thomas Jefferson can be owner of one of the Negro teams.

[maligned]

[quote:28e48fd23c="LMBombers"][quote:28e48fd23c="maligned"][ It's a sad, sad part of baseball history (and others sports' histories) that teams were segregated for so long.
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I disagree. It was society in general that had segregation, not just baseball or sports. I also don't think you can judge history based on today's standards. Are George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc, etc bad people now just because they owned slaves? No way, it was just how things were back then.

I'm very glad things have changed but you have to consider historical events in context with the times as they were.[/quote:28e48fd23c]

Since my comment was the one that LM responded to in the first place, I'd like to respond to what he said. Very simply, segregation in baseball is a sad, sad part of our history. Yes, it was a result of the circumstances surrounding it, but that doesn't make it any less sad or unfortunate. I wasn't trying to explore whether or not baseball could have done things differently, I was merely lamenting the fact that it all happened.

rmilter, I too am uncomfortable with parts of what LM said in his posts, but I agree with others that have suggested you're overreacting. Just because we don't agree doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to speak his mind.

To be clear, I've been around too many friends that are still affected directly and indirectly by current and past sins of white people to take the time to fashion an argument in defense of those who carried out slavery. I'm not saying I know for sure I would have done anything any differently that Thomas Jefferson in his shoes--but my actions, like his, would have had no justification whatsoever had I followed in his footsteps.

Still, though, unless someone is malicious, I can't go along with censoring people. Little by little, the past ignorance of this country is being stripped away. We just have to be patient and continue dialoguing.

[CHARLESBELL]

[quote:be59331b79="genegrid"]Wanted to read about this great rollout and walked into the podium/bullpen! I ordered the CD-rom for $27 yesterday. Looking forward to playing an all time greats league with 2 AL, 2 NL and 2 Negro teams. Thomas Jefferson can be owner of one of the Negro teams.[/quote:be59331b79]

Thanks for talking about the subject of the post!

I'm trying to get the rest of this removed, but you can guess at TSN's speed of involvement on a saturday.

Now Bernie needs to reveal his plans for the set.

[scorehouse]

first negro, then colored, then black, then African American, then mulato, then mixed race, then obama! :lol:

[scorehouse]

due to people like miltie stirring up the natives, there won't be a negro card set released. imagine a white manager with all negro players. that is akin to slavery or at least heresy. how are you going to police the team names? way to go miltie. your totally thoughtless good intentions have backfired once again. :shock:

[genegrid]

I have a recreation audio CD of the '35 east west negro league all star game at Comisky Park. I look forward to replaying it with my new CD-rom set.

Best website I have found for all things in the Negro Leagues including old box scores

http://pitchblackbaseball.com/