Double Switch and Lineup Changes

[FFNogoodnik]

Can HAL do a double switch and if so how can I identify it in the box score?

[MARCPELLETIER]

Yes it can.

You see it when you see two players having their position field change in the boxscore. It's pretty obvious.

[FFNogoodnik]

It is not so obvious to me or else I would not have asked the question.

Two players could have thier position change without a double switch occuring. Say the 3rd baseman gets injured and HAL moves the 1st baseman to 3rd and puts in a new 1st baseman. Later in the game the left fielder gets injured and HAL moves the right fielder to left and puts in a new right fielder. Two players have changed their position but a double switch has not taken place.

[MARCPELLETIER]

Here is what I mean by "pretty obvious"

[quote:cfebaa24bd]*** BOTTOM OF INNING 7 ***
0 M.Fontenot 3-5 Strike Out b-0 F9
SUBSTITUTE PH- Clete Thomas
1 C.Thomas 1-9 Ground Out (2B) b-0 F9
2 T.Tulowitzki 1-10 Ground Out (SS) b-0 F9
*** TOP OF INNING 8 ***
SUBSTITUTE C - Brad Ausmus
SUBSTITUTE LF- Clete Thomas
[/quote:cfebaa24bd]
Ausmus and Thomas were part of a double switch.

[fredpaii]

[quote:6480a676b5="marcus wilby"]Here is what I mean by "pretty obvious"

[quote:6480a676b5]*** BOTTOM OF INNING 7 ***
0 M.Fontenot 3-5 Strike Out b-0 F9
SUBSTITUTE PH- Clete Thomas
1 C.Thomas 1-9 Ground Out (2B) b-0 F9
2 T.Tulowitzki 1-10 Ground Out (SS) b-0 F9
*** TOP OF INNING 8 ***
SUBSTITUTE C - Brad Ausmus
SUBSTITUTE LF- Clete Thomas
[/quote:6480a676b5]
Ausmus and Thomas were part of a double switch.[/quote:6480a676b5]

Thomas hit for the Catcher?

[MARCPELLETIER]

[quote:99de7fbe99]
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& Sweet Louise Darts AB R H RBI AVG
R.Furcal SS C.Crisp CF 4 0 1 0 .241
R.Spilborghs LF K.Fukudome RF 3 1 0 0 .220
J.Drew RF M.Thames DH 4 0 2 0 .255
I.Kinsler 2B A.Beltre 3B 4 0 0 0 .159
P.Sandoval C A.Huff 1B 4 0 2 1 .235
S.Choo DH M.Holliday LF 3 0 0 0 .260
A.Gordon 3B B-B.Ausmus C 1 0 0 0 .280
D.Span CF M.Fontenot 2B 4 0 1 0 .254
S.Casey 1B H.Blanco C 2 0 1 0 .221
A-C.Thomas PH,LF 1 0 0 0 .308
T.Tulowitzki SS 3 0 0 0 .190
[/code:1:99de7fbe99]
[/quote:99de7fbe99]

Yeah, Thomas hit for Blanco and Ausmus replaced Holliday. But in my experience, 90%, if not more, of the time you see two players substituting at the top of a half-inning, it's because of a double switch.

[FFNogoodnik]

Marcus, thanks for clarifying.

[artie4121]

The thing I notice is that while HAL "makes" the right double-switch, he/she often doesn't notate the positions correctly in the game summary.

If a LF is PH for a catcher, and then moves to LF with a replacement catcher, the summary might flip them. It will all be cool in the box score, but the summary is mixed up.