Favorite "hitting" Shortstops

[JONCHUCKERY]

[quote:c6ba469db1="Larryrickenbacker"] Eggman[/quote:c6ba469db1]

Goo Goo Ga Joob!!!!

[durantjerry]

Concepcions power years are nice in a power park. Younts HR year is great in a power park-you can expect 90+ extra base hits, which is great.
Concepcion in Riverfront thru 159 games:
553 73 153 23 1 23 89 43 67 10 2 14 .277 .326 .447
Yount in Fulton:
672 105 214 52 10 37 112 27 89 10 0 32 .319 .342 .591

[The Senators]

And I also can't figure out why Speier would be 1M more than DeJesus...Not that I have great success with DeJesus but not much difference between the two. When I have tried Speier, I threw him back before too long.

[Larryrickenbacker]

Howdy,

And here I was, thinking about picking Spier! LOL. Never tried him, but his power numbers aren't bad, espcially considering his home park.

Larry

[echo22]

During a horrible 7-20 streak where I ended up replacing 3/4 of my team I ended up with scrap heap SS Gene Alley, who I've never used. In 200 ABs he's hitting .305 with 5 HRs, 12 2Bs, .356 OBP, .805 OPS and 6 errors. He has one decent season and I must have gotten it.

Edited to add I use Kessinger a lot. Decent OBP to go with decent defense. Prefer him over Harrelson who always gets hurt. Duffy is a more expensive version of Brinkman. He will be lucky to hit .200. Templeton is by far the best offensive SS and will always hit but expect 40+ errors. Some luck with Concepcion but he's overpriced IMO. Speier always stinks for me. Personally I won't pay over 2 million for a defensive specialist that can't hit at all. Bowa and Burleson at least have a few decent seasons.

[Outta Leftfield]

Of course, the real "hitting" shortstops are in the 80s, when we had a kind of historic shift toward shortstops who could not only field, but could also really hit.

The obvious cases in point are Yount, Ripken, Trammell and Barry Larkin. In fact Larkin, who would be considered a hitting prodigy in the 70s, gets very offhand treatment by 80s managers at times. However, even the lower tier (offensively speaking) of Ozzie, Tony Fernandez, Roosta Burleson and the 80s versions of Templeton and Concepcion are pretty decent hitters by 70s standards. Then you've got the pretty good hitters but not such great fielders like Smalley, Brooks, Franco and Thon. And a guy like UL Washington can be a killer as a platoon player vs LHP. So....SS is a very deep position in the 80s, with a lot of options.

In the 70s, the whole SS situation is much sketchier, which is why I tend to go cheap at SS in the 70s. I used Dent a lot for quite a while but have recently had a run of several seasons where he just didn't hit a lick, so I'm not so sure any more. I do like Kessinger for a bit more $$.

I"ve never tried the 70s Concepcion, but maybe he's worth a look?

[coyote303]

It was a fluke, but one year I got Bert Campaneris's '70 card and he hit 35 HRs, scored 112 runs and had 117 RBIs hitting leadoff. And my home park was Candlestick. It wasn't all good; his OBP was only .293. :lol:

[Larryrickenbacker]

Howdy,

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Campaneris 'til now. By 70s standards, he combined good hitting, surprising power,speed and he could steal bases well. He was a "2" defensively, so his defense is at least "good".
Bert's sort of a "Jackpot" player. After that '70 card, he's more of a $2mil player in my book. I haven't used him yet; this season I'm rolling the dice on Belanger. It worked for me the only time I did it, when I lucked into his '71 card.

Larry

[Outta Leftfield]

[quote:1d82348d3a="coyote303"]It was a fluke, but one year I got Bert Campaneris's '70 card and he hit 35 HRs, scored 112 runs and had 117 RBIs hitting leadoff. And my home park was Candlestick. It wasn't all good; his OBP was only .293. :lol:[/quote:1d82348d3a]

A great year for Campy, but if you don't mind my asking, why were you leading him off? :lol:

[coyote303]

[quote:a092edbd35="Outta Leftfield"][quote:a092edbd35="coyote303"]It was a fluke, but one year I got Bert Campaneris's '70 card and he hit 35 HRs, scored 112 runs and had 117 RBIs hitting leadoff. And my home park was Candlestick. It wasn't all good; his OBP was only .293. :lol:[/quote:a092edbd35]

A great year for Campy, but if you don't mind my asking, why were you leading him off? :lol:[/quote:a092edbd35]

Even having his '70 season, it was a fluke he hit so many HRs. He has 4 HR chances against lefties; 3.2 HR chances against righties; 4 ballpark HR chances against both. Good power for a shortstop, but not exactly cleanup material. Also, he has -12 negative clutch.