VENTING Page for the 70s/80s Players Championship

[chess2899]

Voovits, you are not hearing me......Keep Canseco! Forget the lefty bats. You need HOMERUNS in the Kingdome!

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/80s/team/team_other.html?user_id=158381

[echo22]

I gave up 46 runs in the 4 game series, losing game one 23-1. Somehow I managed to win the next three games. Now I take my 11.57 ERA and 2.34 WHIP to the finals!

Meanwhile my Rd 3 70's is in a funk. Too many hitters underperforming on good cards and of course Diva's trademark pitching which is next to last in the league! But I just picked up Don Carrithers so all is good :D

[voovits]

The Canseco/Hayes deal fell through anyway, but I fell I have enough offense to afford not having Canseco.
At this stage though, I'm not going to entertain any other offers. I'm happy going into the season with this group of mashers.

[ths92110]

I picked him up because an injury reveal showed it was his "[i:c5a0bc0b38][b:c5a0bc0b38]best [/b:c5a0bc0b38][/i:c5a0bc0b38]" card. Yeah, right:

[url]http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/80s/team/team_other.html?user_id=160902[/url]

This team had 1's up the middle and 2's everywhere else. How could he possibly have been that bad????

[Jimmy_C]

Well...that certainly was Cox's best card. Nice WHIP and ERA but some really bad luck in the all important W/L column

[visick]

In a hitting park, like Anaheim, I shoot for sub 5.00 ERA and sub 1.50 WHIP. You got 1 out of 2 there.

You finished the season with only 3 guys over .500 SLG.
Your team BA was .266. OB was .338 and SLG. was .441.

Your pitching was enough for you to win.
Your hitting wasn't.

My 2 cents...
visick

[PillPop]

I don't dispute your analysis, Visick, but isn't Anaheim a pitching park of sorts? Aren't you trying to find low-HR guys who'll give you a low WHIP? A pitching-defense-power-hitting Earl Weaver type of team can do well there.

[ths92110]

[quote:ff626aa073="socalchiro"]In a hitting park, like Anaheim, I shoot for sub 5.00 ERA and sub 1.50 WHIP. You got 1 out of 2 there [/quote:ff626aa073]

What team are you guys looking at?

Cox's 86 card finished with a 5.79 ERA, and 1.58 WHIP. He gave up 242 hits in 197 IP, with Whitaker, Ozzie and Lemon playing behind him. RHs torched him at a .324 clip, and he gave up an incredible 45 HRs on a card that has 2 (count them 2) BP effect HRs. I agree this team couldn't hit worth a lick (drafting Guerrero in his worst year didn't help), but Cox's performance was so ridiculously bad that its hard to believe it was just pure chance. I mean those numbers are at least 2-3 standard deviations from the mean. And I'm not sure Anaheim really counts as a "hitters" park, when BP effect singles are only 1-2.

Anyway, here are the numbers:

Cox, D. '[b:ff626aa073]86[/b:ff626aa073] R S7* 8 16 0 197.1 [b:ff626aa073]242[/b:ff626aa073] 127 69 90 [b:ff626aa073]5.79 [/b:ff626aa073][b:ff626aa073]1.58[/b:ff626aa073]

And here are the splits:

Cox, D. (R) vs. L 365 100 42 33 [b:ff626aa073]23[/b:ff626aa073] .274
S7* vs. R 438 142 27 57 [b:ff626aa073]22[/b:ff626aa073] .324

[Jimmy_C]

[quote:2af11744e7]What team are you guys looking at? [/quote:2af11744e7]
The first time I clicked on your team link, Cox had an 11-12 record and an awesome WHIP and ERA. Now when I click on it, it's UGLY...really UGLY.

Don't know what happened the first time. But anyway, YIKES...Cox did awful for that '86 card. He got bombed a lot...real early too. I see he didn't go deep in the game very much...even when he only gave up 1 run. Did you have restrictive settings on him? Your division also consists of some healthy hitters parks. He may have just gotten into a string of bad luck with the dice in key situations. He looks like the poster child for bad luck.

I feel for you man and I really can't see a definitive reason for what happened...I don't think he should have performed that poorly with his '86 card.

[ths92110]

I was beginning to think I was losing my sanity . . . .

I started him with no hook and no max innings pitched. By the end of the season it was quick hook and 6-7 innings max. Nothing I did made any difference. He got bombed every time out.

What's stoking the conspiracy theory is that paulzplace, who was managing the California Angles 2 in that league (finishing 93-69 by the way), dropped him IMMEDIATELY AFTER AN INJURY REVEAL in game 7 of the season, where a LH designated hitter (Gibson) singled off him in the first inning. At first I thought he'd made a mistake. Then I thought I'd read the reveal wrong when Cox kept getting shelled. Now I'm wondering whether something else is going on and paulzplace knows something about Cox's 86 card, or maybe something else, that I don't. He's currently 11th in the tournament standings with teams that are a combined 203-166, with a 1000 something player rating. I'd ask him myself but I don't know him and don't want to insult him or anyone else for that matter. But seeing a veteran player drop a guy's best year, AFTER THE INJURY REVEAL, and then watching the guy get crucified game after game is really making me wonder . . . . . :(