THE SYSTEM - MINORS/MAJORS FULL - replacement needed
by BC Manager » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:47 pm
Ok, so we won't make it like a decade league. But I assume that people want to have multiple seasons in one format (70s, 80s, etc.).
What would people prefer,
1 season for each card set?
2 seasons?
3 seasons?
What would people prefer,
1 season for each card set?
2 seasons?
3 seasons?
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by canauscot » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:57 pm
I'm late to the comment party and the train has sailed and other mixed metaphors but...
I liked the idea of 3 seasons per decade with the early, mid and late parts of each decade.
I liked the idea of players not eligible by card being minors or reserves only (either young prospects or has-beens holding on for one more chance..."we get a good mix here" H J Simpson)
I liked the idea of every player being drafted (and put onto Majors, minors or reserves with moves between limited only by salary cap and the drop penalties).
The complicated bit was all the waivers and stuff. I don't think it is necessary. I don't think the concern over stacking the minors if you fall out of contention in the majors is valid because you have a cap and because a player doing well in the "majors" could do crap in the "minors".
I think you would only need to do the one draft per decade. I think it highly unlikely that you would find a problem with a team of 60 players (or whatever it works out to in the 80's/90's) not being able to field an eligible 25 (or a trade could solve it). Part of the challenge of the draft would be to look forward to what you project your team to be early, mid and late and make sure you give yourself flexibility.
(total catcher and pure reliever restrictions as necessary and maybe we could consider any 75ers as always eligible).
All your players are always keepers and you can keep who you want that is eligible into the next decade, eligibility is the key (I don't mind a max number of keepers into the next decade, but I like trading, so if I'm out of it late in the 70's why not trade a hot Yaz to pick up a not so hot Gorman heading into the early 80's?). Some total rosters might go beyond 60 and some less than 60 (upper and lower limits could be placed on this) and obviously different organizations will have more eligible players at some points than others but that would be a strategy choice - (i.e. going for fewer high value players but little flexibility by trading two for one or go for more low value players and try to find who's hot...do I expand my eligible list for the next "season" or do I go for it this year).
Not a lot of policing would be required. Everybody essentially has a master list of players who they own outright (major, minor or reserves). You really only need to follow who is major league eligible at any point. There are spreadsheets around with these eligibility years, I've got one available. Without the waivers and options complications (If I claim him who do I need to release etc...) it really isn't that hard.
My two cents with plenty of inflation.
I liked the idea of 3 seasons per decade with the early, mid and late parts of each decade.
I liked the idea of players not eligible by card being minors or reserves only (either young prospects or has-beens holding on for one more chance..."we get a good mix here" H J Simpson)
I liked the idea of every player being drafted (and put onto Majors, minors or reserves with moves between limited only by salary cap and the drop penalties).
The complicated bit was all the waivers and stuff. I don't think it is necessary. I don't think the concern over stacking the minors if you fall out of contention in the majors is valid because you have a cap and because a player doing well in the "majors" could do crap in the "minors".
I think you would only need to do the one draft per decade. I think it highly unlikely that you would find a problem with a team of 60 players (or whatever it works out to in the 80's/90's) not being able to field an eligible 25 (or a trade could solve it). Part of the challenge of the draft would be to look forward to what you project your team to be early, mid and late and make sure you give yourself flexibility.
(total catcher and pure reliever restrictions as necessary and maybe we could consider any 75ers as always eligible).
All your players are always keepers and you can keep who you want that is eligible into the next decade, eligibility is the key (I don't mind a max number of keepers into the next decade, but I like trading, so if I'm out of it late in the 70's why not trade a hot Yaz to pick up a not so hot Gorman heading into the early 80's?). Some total rosters might go beyond 60 and some less than 60 (upper and lower limits could be placed on this) and obviously different organizations will have more eligible players at some points than others but that would be a strategy choice - (i.e. going for fewer high value players but little flexibility by trading two for one or go for more low value players and try to find who's hot...do I expand my eligible list for the next "season" or do I go for it this year).
Not a lot of policing would be required. Everybody essentially has a master list of players who they own outright (major, minor or reserves). You really only need to follow who is major league eligible at any point. There are spreadsheets around with these eligibility years, I've got one available. Without the waivers and options complications (If I claim him who do I need to release etc...) it really isn't that hard.
My two cents with plenty of inflation.
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by canauscot » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:19 pm
OR
If people are anxious to get to the 90's (let's face it, It will take a year to get through the 70's and 80's if we do 3 seasons each), then maybe do two seasons per decade and I would suggest eligibility would be;
early: has a card year 73 or before
late: has a card year 77 or after
no player won't fall into either of these camps
If people are anxious to get to the 90's (let's face it, It will take a year to get through the 70's and 80's if we do 3 seasons each), then maybe do two seasons per decade and I would suggest eligibility would be;
early: has a card year 73 or before
late: has a card year 77 or after
no player won't fall into either of these camps
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by BC Manager » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:27 pm
BC Manager - Ontario
Canauscot - Michigan
sphilipp8 - CT
YountFan - WI
Jablowmi - Philly
jsam - NH
Hakmusic - MA (first 3)
Wesleyeugeneclark - CA
bigdinkent - OH
We only have 9 interested so far, so we may have to consider what rule setup will attract more owners.
Canauscot - Michigan
sphilipp8 - CT
YountFan - WI
Jablowmi - Philly
jsam - NH
Hakmusic - MA (first 3)
Wesleyeugeneclark - CA
bigdinkent - OH
We only have 9 interested so far, so we may have to consider what rule setup will attract more owners.
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by BC Manager » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:43 pm
Here's where we stand from my perspective, based on the discussion:
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- everyone will have major and minor league team
- 3 seasons in 70s, 80s and 90s
- all players in each card set drafted (eligibility not based on years on card)
- teams reserve all their players between seasons in a decade (unless traded or lost on waivers)
- teams reserve players who carry over into next decade
- waiver rules in effect as per the original rules
- Major league team - 100 cap, Minor league team 80 mil cap
- unique ballparks for all 24 teams
- DH used for all seasons, minor and major leagues
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I know this doesn't reflect everyone's wishes but I think it captures what most people have expressed, as well as the rules that I think will make this concept work.
If anyone feels strongly about any of these and wants to persuade others, please make your case.
[b:49e68b2896]
- everyone will have major and minor league team
- 3 seasons in 70s, 80s and 90s
- all players in each card set drafted (eligibility not based on years on card)
- teams reserve all their players between seasons in a decade (unless traded or lost on waivers)
- teams reserve players who carry over into next decade
- waiver rules in effect as per the original rules
- Major league team - 100 cap, Minor league team 80 mil cap
- unique ballparks for all 24 teams
- DH used for all seasons, minor and major leagues
[/b:49e68b2896]
I know this doesn't reflect everyone's wishes but I think it captures what most people have expressed, as well as the rules that I think will make this concept work.
If anyone feels strongly about any of these and wants to persuade others, please make your case.
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by BC Manager » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:54 pm
[quote:5acd22d1ae="sellingw"]Would be interested and I would choose MN, but what is a pick-3 draft?[/quote:5acd22d1ae]
I assume you must be new to SOM theme leagues. Pick 3 draws are how many of these leagues randomize the draft order. Most states have a pick 3 lotto (which simply is a lotto where you try to guess the 3 numbers drawn, 1-2-3, 9-9-9, 4-2-8, etc.). A particular night for lotto draws is chosen and you take all the pick 3 results for that night from the states picked. Teams are then ranked (in this case from lowest pick3 result to highest) to determine the draft order. This order is often used to determine divisions as well. (East - 1, 4, 7, 10, Central, 2, 5,8,11...etc.).
Selling, are you wanting to join? I don't mind if you're new, as long as you can commit to the number of teams, can be an active participant and can stick to the rules.
I assume you must be new to SOM theme leagues. Pick 3 draws are how many of these leagues randomize the draft order. Most states have a pick 3 lotto (which simply is a lotto where you try to guess the 3 numbers drawn, 1-2-3, 9-9-9, 4-2-8, etc.). A particular night for lotto draws is chosen and you take all the pick 3 results for that night from the states picked. Teams are then ranked (in this case from lowest pick3 result to highest) to determine the draft order. This order is often used to determine divisions as well. (East - 1, 4, 7, 10, Central, 2, 5,8,11...etc.).
Selling, are you wanting to join? I don't mind if you're new, as long as you can commit to the number of teams, can be an active participant and can stick to the rules.
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