Top 25 Starting Pitchers for 2010...the data is in

[AeroDave10]

Has anyone in the last 5 years received a star with less than 32 starts?

[maligned]

Anyone with 200+ IP always has a star (many with 30 or 31 GS, none with less has existed).
Obviously, you can see 196+ IP with 31+ starts is automatic (all examples below). But there has only been one 30 GS pitcher with 196+ IP (Wang 2007, 199 IP) and he didn't get a star. If you look back further through the data, you can see that rules have often changed or evolved with stars. I'm suggesting there's a chance Cahill and Santana get stars because Hal may have changed his mind in the last several years about other guys with 196+ IP. But we have no way of knowing because of having no examples.

2009:
Millwood, 198.2 IP, 31 GS

2008:
Sheets/Saunders 198+ IP, 31 GS

2006:
Myers 198 IP, 31 GS

2005:
Patterson 198 IP, 31 GS
Sabathia 196 IP, 31 GS

[blsmith7]

What about Kuroda? He had 31 GS and 196.1 IP with an ERC below 3? Will he get a *, and shouldn't he be around the top 25?

[maligned]

Woops. I screwed up. I was thinking Kuroda was out for some time early in the season, but that was not the case. I didn't even check his number of starts. He's #24 now. I left Arroyo listed, because he'll be higher if Santana has no star.

[oldhat2]

What about Red Sox Clay Buchholtz?

[maligned]

[quote:23684022af="maligned"][quote:23684022af="keyzick"]Clay Bucholz? Did he miss out because of his lack of a *?[/quote:23684022af]

Yes. S6 with no star. But I have him extremely close to the top 25 also. He very well may be there.[/quote:23684022af]

This was about 10 comments ago in this discussion string.

[thisisdan26]

bump

[thisisdan26]

1 Ubaldo Jimenez, S7* (7th)
2 Cliff Lee, S7* (14th)
3 Adam Wainwright, S7* (6th)
4 Roy Oswalt, S7*
5 Felix Hernandez, S7* (1st)
6 Daniel Hudson, S7 (2nd)
7 Jered Weaver, S7* (5th)
8 Justin Verlander, S7* (9th)
9 Roy Halladay, S7* (15th)
10 Matt Cain, S7* (17th)
11 Jon Lester, S7* (11th)
12 Josh Johnson, S7 (10th)
13 Trevor Cahill, S7* (22nd)
14 CC Sabathia, S7* (18th)
15 John Danks, S7* (20th)
16 Tim Hudson, S7* (13th)
17 Stephen Strasburg, S6 (19th)
18 Clayton Kershaw, S6* (3rd!!)
19 Johan Santana, S7* (27th)
20 C.J. Wilson, S6* (26th)
21 David Price, S7* (25th)
22 Colby Lewis, S6* (39th)
23 Ricky Romero, S7* (34th)
24 Hideki Kuroda S6* (23rd)
25 Travis Wood, S6 (42nd)
26 Bronson Arroyo, S7 (48th)


Just thought this would be interesting.

[elpasopesos]

So what's wrong with Clay Bucholtz?

[thisisdan26]

[quote:9ea788ca49="elpasopesos"]So what's wrong with Clay Bucholtz?[/quote:9ea788ca49]

Wasnt on the original list!

turned out to be the 12th ranked!