tWi$tEd rEaLiTy 2010 - the Great Equalizer!

[Paul_Long71]

1)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - B BUTLER, 1B
2)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - ANDREW McCUTCHEN, CF
3)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - BRETT MYERS, SP
4)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's - SHIN-SOO-CHOO, RF
5)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays - J.A. HAPP, SP
6)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks - RYAN HANIGAN, C
7)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - JOSE TABATA, LF
8)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - SEAN MARSHALL, RP
9)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - WANDY RODRIGUEZ, SP
10)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's - LUKE SCOTT, 1B
11)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays - WILSON BETEMIT, 3B
12)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks - ZACK GREINKE, SP
13)carlerik - 18 Wash Nats - NICK MARKAKIS RF (traded to Mets)
14)Washington Nationals via trade with METS - HUNTER PENCE RF
15)oldmansmith2 --- Los Angeles Dodgers - MARLON BYRD, cf
16)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - RYAN DEMPSTER, sp
17)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - JOAKIM SORIA, rp
18)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - CARLOS MARMOL, R1/C6
19)padrenurgle --- Philadelphia Phillies (by trade from Oakland) - JEREMY GUTHRIE SP
20)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks (by trade from Toronto) - EVAN MEEK RP
21)sknsfan --- San Diego Padres (by trade with Arizona) - NEIL WALKER, 2B
22)carlerik --- 18 Washington Nationals - MICHAEL BOURN, OF
23)carlerik - Washington Nats (by trade with Mets) - BRIAN MATUSZ, SP
24)oldmansmith2 --- Los Angeles Dodgers - GEOVANY SOTO C
25)Evil Spock --- 20 St. Louis Cardinals - EDUARDO NUNEZ 3B
26)keyzick --- 15 --- Detroit Tigers - CARLOS SANTANA C
27)Gumby3640 --- Chicago White Sox - CHRIS HEISEY RF
28)MoFo's of Mayhem --- Colorado Rockies - WILTON LOPEZ, RP
29)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners STARLIN CASTRO SS (proxy)
30)Paul_Long71 --- Florida Marlins - DAVID DEJESUS OF
31)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - K. FUKUDOME RF
32)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's - KOJI UEHARA, RP
33)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays - CARLOS ZAMBRANO, SP
34))Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks - FAUSTO CARMONA, SP
35)nymets 99 - NY Mets via trade with Nationals LANCE NIX LF (proxy)
36)nymets99 --- New York Mets - GREGOR BLANCO CF (proxy)
37)oldmansmith2 --- Los Angeles Dodgers - Jeff Keppinger 2b
38)Evil Spock --- 20 St. Louis Cardinals - Brandan Lyon RP/CL
39)keyzick --- 15 --- Detroit Tigers - LASTINGS MILLEDGE
40)Gumby3640 --- Chicago White Sox - JAMES McDONALD S5/R3
41)MoFo's of Mayhem --- Colorado Rockies - BRIAN ROBERTS 2B
42)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks (via trade) - ROBERT ANDINO 2B
43)Paul_Long71 --- Florida Marlins - CRAIG TATUM C

[b:1c310ae93a]44)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners[/b:1c310ae93a]

45)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels
46)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers
47)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's
48)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays
49))Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks

[Sknsfan]

Once the frenzy starts - how is it determined whom is and is not available?

[padrenurgle1]

[quote:a85c51e8fa="mbrake"][quote:a85c51e8fa="modmark47"]Question - If you draft 8 players, how do you put your draft card together? 20 of your drafted team players and 5 of the FAs you drafted? What happens to the other 3 drafted FAs? Or do you put all 8 of your drafted FAs on your card, and add the other 3 players from your drafted team after the AD (assuming you have the money to do so)?[/quote:a85c51e8fa]

After the draft, each team should list all players drafted or acquired by draft. No team can add those players (e.g. players drafted over the 25 player auto-draft que). Remember, your draft players count toward the minimum 20 requirement. You need to keep the minimum of 20 at all times without exception. Once the frenzy starts, everyone needs to proceed with integrity and honesty to keep the theme's intent.[/quote:a85c51e8fa]

ok...now i'm a bit confused too. Do you mean that we retain rights to players permanently if they're on our original team or they are drafted? Even if they don't make our $80m roster? It seems like then the only players available in the frenzy would be the few .50 players not drafted off the bottom feeders after 90-something picks. I originally thought that the frenzy would be what it sounds like...a chance to release and pick up players at will (as long as we keep 20 from the original team or the draft at all times). "No team can add those players" is confusing...

[The Godfather]

Obviously subject to mbrake's ruling, but I was interpreting it as the following (using the example of my own team, COL):

All COL carded players are mine unless I trade them or announce that I am rescinding their rights. Unless I trade them or announce that I am rescinding rights, they are mine whether or not they are on my roster. Likewise regarding players that I acquire via the supplemental draft or trades.

After the auto-draft/waivers (or frenzy), the only players that I would be able to add to my team (and throughout the rest of the season) would have to fall into one of the following categories:

1. Carded to COL (assuming I haven't traded them or rescinded rights).
2. Acquired via trade.
3. Acquired via supplemental draft.
4. Any remaining undrafted players from the undrafted franchises may be claimed any time after the auto-draft.(?)
5. Always keep at least 20 COL on my roster at all times.

mbrake, am I right about that (especially #4)?

So basically I can only have a non-COL player if I grabbed him during the supplemental draft (from an undrafted franchise), traded for him (from anyone else), or grabbed him after the auto-draft (again, from an undrafted franchise).

Your players remain your players, whether or not they are on your active roster.

Now watch me be wrong....... :shock:

[modmark46]

1)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - B BUTLER, 1B
2)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - ANDREW McCUTCHEN, CF
3)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - BRETT MYERS, SP
4)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's - SHIN-SOO-CHOO, RF
5)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays - J.A. HAPP, SP
6)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks - RYAN HANIGAN, C
7)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - JOSE TABATA, LF
8)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - SEAN MARSHALL, RP
9)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - WANDY RODRIGUEZ, SP
10)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's - LUKE SCOTT, 1B
11)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays - WILSON BETEMIT, 3B
12)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks - ZACK GREINKE, SP
13)carlerik - 18 Wash Nats - NICK MARKAKIS RF (traded to Mets)
14)Washington Nationals via trade with METS - HUNTER PENCE RF
15)oldmansmith2 --- Los Angeles Dodgers - MARLON BYRD, cf
16)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - RYAN DEMPSTER, sp
17)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - JOAKIM SORIA, rp
18)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - CARLOS MARMOL, R1/C6
19)padrenurgle --- Philadelphia Phillies (by trade from Oakland) - JEREMY GUTHRIE SP
20)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks (by trade from Toronto) - EVAN MEEK RP
21)sknsfan --- San Diego Padres (by trade with Arizona) - NEIL WALKER, 2B
22)carlerik --- 18 Washington Nationals - MICHAEL BOURN, OF
23)carlerik - Washington Nats (by trade with Mets) - BRIAN MATUSZ, SP
24)oldmansmith2 --- Los Angeles Dodgers - GEOVANY SOTO C
25)Evil Spock --- 20 St. Louis Cardinals - EDUARDO NUNEZ 3B
26)keyzick --- 15 --- Detroit Tigers - CARLOS SANTANA C
27)Gumby3640 --- Chicago White Sox - CHRIS HEISEY RF
28)MoFo's of Mayhem --- Colorado Rockies - WILTON LOPEZ, RP
29)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners STARLIN CASTRO SS (proxy)
30)Paul_Long71 --- Florida Marlins - DAVID DEJESUS OF
31)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - K. FUKUDOME RF
32)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's - KOJI UEHARA, RP
33)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays - CARLOS ZAMBRANO, SP
34))Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks - FAUSTO CARMONA, SP
35)nymets 99 - NY Mets via trade with Nationals LANCE NIX LF (proxy)
36)nymets99 --- New York Mets - GREGOR BLANCO CF (proxy)
37)oldmansmith2 --- Los Angeles Dodgers - Jeff Keppinger 2b
38)Evil Spock --- 20 St. Louis Cardinals - Brandan Lyon RP/CL
39)keyzick --- 15 --- Detroit Tigers - LASTINGS MILLEDGE
40)Gumby3640 --- Chicago White Sox - JAMES McDONALD S5/R3
41)MoFo's of Mayhem --- Colorado Rockies - BRIAN ROBERTS 2B
42)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks (via trade) - ROBERT ANDINO 2B
43)Paul_Long71 --- Florida Marlins - CRAIG TATUM C
44)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - NELSON FIGUEROA, sp

[b:feba9a1547]45)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - [/b:feba9a1547]

46)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers
47)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's
48)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays
49))Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks

[padrenurgle1]

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Avdauw4Y_vzCdDl0OEFGSkxrcUdnR2VWU05SR3E2NFE&hl=en#gid=0

[Sknsfan]

I like what Padrenurgle said.
:D

[yasky33@yahoo.com]

1)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - B BUTLER, 1B
2)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - ANDREW McCUTCHEN, CF
3)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - BRETT MYERS, SP
4)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's - SHIN-SOO-CHOO, RF
5)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays - J.A. HAPP, SP
6)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks - RYAN HANIGAN, C
7)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - JOSE TABATA, LF
8)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - SEAN MARSHALL, RP
9)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - WANDY RODRIGUEZ, SP
10)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's - LUKE SCOTT, 1B
11)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays - WILSON BETEMIT, 3B
12)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks - ZACK GREINKE, SP
13)carlerik - 18 Wash Nats - NICK MARKAKIS RF (traded to Mets)
14)Washington Nationals via trade with METS - HUNTER PENCE RF
15)oldmansmith2 --- Los Angeles Dodgers - MARLON BYRD, cf
16)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - RYAN DEMPSTER, sp
17)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - JOAKIM SORIA, rp
18)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - CARLOS MARMOL, R1/C6
19)padrenurgle --- Philadelphia Phillies (by trade from Oakland) - JEREMY GUTHRIE SP
20)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks (by trade from Toronto) - EVAN MEEK RP
21)sknsfan --- San Diego Padres (by trade with Arizona) - NEIL WALKER, 2B
22)carlerik --- 18 Washington Nationals - MICHAEL BOURN, OF
23)carlerik - Washington Nats (by trade with Mets) - BRIAN MATUSZ, SP
24)oldmansmith2 --- Los Angeles Dodgers - GEOVANY SOTO C
25)Evil Spock --- 20 St. Louis Cardinals - EDUARDO NUNEZ 3B
26)keyzick --- 15 --- Detroit Tigers - CARLOS SANTANA C
27)Gumby3640 --- Chicago White Sox - CHRIS HEISEY RF
28)MoFo's of Mayhem --- Colorado Rockies - WILTON LOPEZ, RP
29)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners STARLIN CASTRO SS (proxy)
30)Paul_Long71 --- Florida Marlins - DAVID DEJESUS OF
31)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers - K. FUKUDOME RF
32)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's - KOJI UEHARA, RP
33)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays - CARLOS ZAMBRANO, SP
34))Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks - FAUSTO CARMONA, SP
35)nymets 99 - NY Mets via trade with Nationals LANCE NIX LF (proxy)
36)nymets99 --- New York Mets - GREGOR BLANCO CF (proxy)
37)oldmansmith2 --- Los Angeles Dodgers - Jeff Keppinger 2b
38)Evil Spock --- 20 St. Louis Cardinals - Brandan Lyon RP/CL
39)keyzick --- 15 --- Detroit Tigers - LASTINGS MILLEDGE
40)Gumby3640 --- Chicago White Sox - JAMES McDONALD S5/R3
41)MoFo's of Mayhem --- Colorado Rockies - BRIAN ROBERTS 2B
42)Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks (via trade) - ROBERT ANDINO 2B
43)Paul_Long71 --- Florida Marlins - CRAIG TATUM C
44)Modmark --- 23 Seattle Mariners - NELSON FIGUEROA, sp
45)yasky33 --- 21 Los Angeles Angels - Pedro Alvarez, 3B

[b:afff77a24f]46)CATom --- 19 Milwaukee Brewers[/b:afff77a24f]

47)mike28298 --- 17 Oakland A's
48)Geoff Brookes --- Toronto Blue Jays
49))Delbird --- 22 Arizona Diamondbacks

[oldmansmith2]

Mofos, unless it's different than last year, you submit your autodraft consisting of 20 players that either were part your original team or players you drafted during the supplemental draft. The other five could be any players you have the rights to -- original players, players you drafted, or players you aquired through trades. Any players that you did not include in the autodraft are then available to anybody in the frenzy. You do not retain any rights to these players. You may want mbrake to confirm this but that's how it was done last year.

[The Godfather]

Yeah, I'll wait for him to clarify. I wasn't in this league last year so I'm not sure. Plus I'm in a similar theme league right now so that may be confusing the issue for me.