Approximate Games Missed Due to Injury Rating...

[The Biomechanical Man]

bump (for my convenience) :wink:

[artie4121]

As I am an online only player, I am going to make an assumption that I would like those more versed to confirm.

[quote:8cf22d205a]d20 Result
1-2 Stays in game
3-4 Inj. for remainder of game
5-8 Inj. for 1 extra game
9-11 Inj. for 2 extra games
12-13 Inj. for 3 extra games
14 Inj. for 4 extra games
15 Inj. for 5 extra games
16 Inj. for 6 extra games
17 Inj. for 7 extra games
18 Inj. for 8 extra games
19 Inj. for 10 extra games
20 Inj. for 15 extra games [/quote:8cf22d205a]


Above is the injury chart for players with < 600 PA (AB + BB).

Might I assume that since the maximum injury is 3 games for a "1" injury rated player with >600 ab, [i:8cf22d205a][b:8cf22d205a]that ALL dice rolls above 12 are brought down to 3 games max?[/b:8cf22d205a][/i:8cf22d205a]

If that is the case, I am looking for an approximate thumbnail penalty percentage to apply to "1" injury 600+ PA players VS. "0" injury players.

In other words, [i:8cf22d205a]all things being equal, [b:8cf22d205a]on average[/b:8cf22d205a] how many FEWER games would a 600+ "1" injury guy play than a "0" injury player over a 162 game season? 5 fewer? 10 fewer? [/i:8cf22d205a]This number could then be developed into a % factor for a season or portion thereof.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

[MARCPELLETIER]

[quote:1897e29e0e]Might I assume that since the maximum injury is 3 games for a "1" injury rated player with >600 ab, that ALL dice rolls above 12 are brought down to 3 games max?[/quote:1897e29e0e]

Yes, you may. This is what Palmtana showed with his stats.

[quote:1897e29e0e]In other words, all things being equal, on average how many FEWER games would a 600+ "1" injury guy play than a "0" injury player over a 162 game season? 5 fewer? 10 fewer? This number could then be developed into a % factor for a season or portion thereof. [/quote:1897e29e0e]

A player with no injury plays 100% of the time, all 162 games.

Looking at "the Hook" template, we see that a typical hitter will miss on average 6 games for every 162 games he plays (we can forget about the scaling problem here). 6/162 represents 3.7% of all playing time, so you can take 3.7% as your percentage penalty or 96.3% of the value equivalency.

[artie4121]

Perfection, Luckyman, thank you.

Might I ask if you find such benchmarking valuable in your own valuations?

I am also looking for a [b:974fee629a][i:974fee629a]simple[/i:974fee629a][/b:974fee629a] formula for the impact of ballparks on batting performance. For example, if Player A hits .300 in the "average" ballpark (8-8-8-8, I assume?), then what [i:974fee629a]approximate[/i:974fee629a] % multiplier would be applied to this BA/OBP/Hrs, if he were in a 15-15-1-1 park, or 1-1-1-1 park, etc.

I wonder if anyone has ever put together a template or chart benchmarking ALL of the ballparks in this way against an "Average" park.
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[The Biomechanical Man]

[quote:5311c76379="Artie412"]Perfection, Luckyman, thank you.

Might I ask if you find such benchmarking valuable in your own valuations?

I am also looking for a [b:5311c76379][i:5311c76379]simple[/i:5311c76379][/b:5311c76379] formula for the impact of ballparks on batting performance. For example, if Player A hits .300 in the "average" ballpark (8-8-8-8, I assume?), then what [i:5311c76379]approximate[/i:5311c76379] % multiplier would be applied to this BA/OBP/Hrs, if he were in a 15-15-1-1 park, or 1-1-1-1 park, etc.

I wonder if anyone has ever put together a template or chart benchmarking ALL of the ballparks in this way against an "Average" park.
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Artie, this is a whole different topic. I would suggest looking in the "Strategy" board, or posting there.

[fredpaii]

Hmm.

So a "3" injury player can expect to lose as much as 54 games to injury? If I go by Bio's 3 x injury chance for "3" injury players then that's what I get.

Craig Counsel (he's a "3") is well on his way to reaching that 54 games missed figure for me in the 2002 season. He's missed 28 of the first 69 games (that's not including "rest of game" injuries) and is currently out for six more. That will make it 34 of the first 75 missed. Wow. Again, that's not including the "rest of game" injuries. Which make it even more obscene.

The weird thing about that team is that Brian Giles (over 600 REAL PA's) has missed seven games to injury over the first 69. That seems a little much for his card at this stage of the season especially.

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/2002/team/team_other.html?user_id=47463

I'm curious as to what the worse-case scenario might actually be---not just guesstimates but actual history's--- for "3" injury players. What's the most games you've seen missed by a "3" player for a season? And how about a "1" with over 600 PA's?

[kramers]

I thought a pitcher's injury comes off injury to DH? But I must be wrong because I had a pitcher and the DH hurt on same game. What is the correlation and how does it impact the numbers yoiu all have already listed?