MVP - Cy Young

Should SOM team owners cast votes for MVP/Cy Young Winners

 
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MVP - Cy Young

Postby johnmartinsain » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:47 am

The system is seriously flawed. It's not of primary importance but its formula should be tinkered with.

I am at the 156 game point in my season.

My team has 9 more wins than any other team in my league.

I am first in offense - runs, first in pitching - ERA

I have not one player in the top 5 MVP or Cy Young standings.

My team is very well balanced but there are standouts.

This would NEVER happen in real MLB.

The voters would automatically have one of my players, at least in the running for MVP.

Any thoughts on this? Similiar observations?

I'd like to see managers vote say every 27 games (6x per season) to determine these standings. Perhaps even vote for the All-Stars.
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Postby KEVINEHLE » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:59 am

I think you got it backwards. I love to have the best team in the league and have none of my guys be on the all star, Cy Young, or MVP list. It shows great balance. Let the individual cyber players have their glory.
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Postby theClaw » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:58 am

kev-

you are right even though I voted yes to the poll. I have a team now headed to the finals that has no one in the top 5 for either category. Yes it does feel good. 8-)
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Postby george barnard » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:13 am

I want all five spots -- MVP and Cy Young. And 112 wins. And the Championship.

Oh, wait ... apparently I can't do that because normalization is on... or is it a black box....????

Then again, I'd settle for a GG at pitcher the way I'm going.
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Postby wavygravy2k » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:43 am

Interesting idea but managers should also be allowed NOT to vote without overly influencing the results.

I imagine it could get a bit cumbersome to have to go through all of the stats in the league to fill out a ballot. Some managers may not want to be bothered with it.
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Postby johnmartinsain » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:38 pm

As I stated, it isn't an important issue, but if the software developer went through the trouble of creating the MVP, CY, etc features, it may as well be as accurate as possible.

Since too many may consider voting to be too 'far out', at least the developer should look into reevaluating the variables involved in the 'point system' currently in place.

A first place team with the best record in the league by 9 games should have a player in the top 5 MVPs. That should be almost built-in to the variables.

I'm sure lots of you fans can reference strong MVP candidates from the past whose teams excelled whereas their leaders stats didn't stand out as much as other players on poorer teams.

Is the MVP the best player in the league, or the player most valuable to the best team?

But,...no big deal!....just sayin'! :D
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Postby durantjerry » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:15 pm

How about if they just change the award to "player of the year"? Is HAL capable of making subjective judgements to determine an MVP? Many sports writers, players and managers don't seem to do it too well for MLB, how do you expect HAL to do it?
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Postby johnmartinsain » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:29 pm

[quote:fa944b9867="durantjerry"]How about if they just change the award to "player of the year"? Is HAL capable of making subjective judgements to determine an MVP? Many sports writers, players and managers don't seem to do it too well for MLB, how do you expect HAL to do it?[/quote:fa944b9867]

HAL makes many much more important decisions in the course of a game,...gets most of those right. And that took a lot of tweaking, right?

Anyway, unless people are wagering on these things,...it doesn't matter much.
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Postby azpanthers11 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:33 pm

Well if I remember right the last two years AL Cy Young winners have been Zach Greinke and Felix Hernandez. Both were on bad teams. So from that alone I'd say it's the best player that year regardless of team.
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Postby johnmartinsain » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:33 pm

I'm trying unsuccessfully to think of a team with the league's best record without a player in the top 5 of MVP or CY voting,...which is the case with my team.

I have a (gold glove + silver slugger selection) hitter batting .356 (50 pts above the league's #2 hiiter)..and a 165 inning reliever with 10 wins/8 saves, leading the league in ERA and WHIP.

Both nowhere to be found in the voting although my team leads it's division by 14 games and has 7 more wins than the league's #2 team..

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=319078
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