An update

[MacTK]

[quote:3f8d9fba48="The Rabid Wolverines"]

...if that doesn't say anything about the cost being too high, I don't know what does...[/quote:3f8d9fba48]

It might also say, as I pointed out earlier, that there are other text sim gaming options that are more desirable.

[nevdully's]

Or that any game should be promoted a little, and again from time to time, instead of just being put out there.

[geekor]

[quote:44dad71034="nevdully's"]Or that any game should be promoted a little, and again from time to time, instead of just being put out there.[/quote:44dad71034]

ding ding ding ding

winner winner chicken dinner.

really all this banter is fun to read but utterly pointless. You want to know how I know it's pointless? Because the main fantasy games page still has the same old information as it did over a year ago. Even though I've mentioned it twice, apparently Bernie doesn't even read what we write so why bother.

April 7th:
http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=624857&start=17

And again on May 27th with a screenshot:
http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=625437&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50#comments

Still no change. You think anyone who comes from another game and goes, "let's see what else they have to offer" and see old games stuck at the bottom will try them? Hell no.

Also, they bury the path to get to your teams so hard, I've had to bookmark everything. It used to be one or 2 clicks, now it's a f***ing labyrinth just to get to see my current teams.

[visick]

All this talk here boys...
unfortunately

is falling on deaf ears.

ZERO
ZIP
NIL
NADA

Not a peep from anybody in days.

I'm tired of typing something out, re-reading it, and then erasing it because it's just pointless blabber.

My advice is to enjoy the game while you can, good or bad.
Leaving ideas and/or marketing tid bits is to no avail.

visick

[Mr Baseball World]

FYI: There are no other fantasy games at TSN. STRAT is the only game on the website.

[beavis]

[quote:374f5faabe]FYI: There are no other fantasy games at TSN. STRAT is the only game on the website. [/quote:374f5faabe]

And that tells you everything you need to know, doesn't it?

[The Godfather]

I believe TSN got rid of their free and paid fantasy sports games a couple of years ago. The only reason why I knew about SOM Online was I found it by accident and remembered that my Uncle and his friends used to play the board game. I don't know why they eliminated those games, it seemed like they had a pretty good rate of participation. That's what puzzles me; since the lifeblood of websites is TRAFFIC (just like viewership for TV), why cut something that brings so many people in?

TSN is in a tough spot for fantasy sports. ESPN and FOX also have TV channels to promote/tie-in to each other. Yahoo has a hugely successful web portal. TSN has a magazine (how well are newspapers and magazines doing these days?) and a poorly designed website. So if I were to draw a conclusion, I would say the $25/team fee plus accompanying web traffic (a very important figure for ad rates) from all of us SOM groupies is enough to justify the status quo with an upgrade here or there (in their eyes).

Obviously I'm speculating about all of this but it makes sense to me. One more thing: I think people tend to blame Bernie for nearly everything because he's the only person they've heard from. Let's try to see this from his perspective. I'm going to assume that Bernie is a one man show who has to get approval for many things (budget, upgrades, discounts, etc). Understanding that many of you have been using SOM Online much longer than I, I know you have your grievances. Have any of you considered that Bernie might happen to agree with a lot of our points and be just as frustrated that he can't implement some of them? It's not like he would be able to post or e-mail something to the effect of "You're rights guys, but the powers that be won't do it for you". How would that go over with his boss? Just something to think about. We all deal with roadblocks at some point in our jobs, and I'm sure Bernie has plenty of his too. I'm not saying that I disagree with "the customer is always right", lack of marketing, etc that many of you have mentioned. But when I see boldfaced postings asking Bernie to respond to an angry mob that he actually may agree with, I wonder what you expect him to say on public record.

[nevdully's]

[quote:ee155b3d09]when I see boldfaced postings asking Bernie to respond to an angry mob that he actually may agree with, I wonder what you expect him to say on public record. [/quote:ee155b3d09]

It's possible. But he has said in the past things to the effect of "they won't let me do this or that".

And I think what many of us want is for him simply to be more present and accountable. His history here has always been more absent, and for long stretches, than present.

[The Last Druid]

Angry mob? What a lovely characterization. Bite me.

[The Godfather]

It obviously was meant tongue in cheek. Geez, relax man.