24 Team league Trades & Transactions

[The Turtle]

Date of trade: Thu, 07/21, 10:48:41am EST

Finders Keepers (The Turtle) traded:
Bernadina, Roger ($1,200,000)
Gonzalez, Gio ($3,850,000)
Veras, Jose ($1,380,000)
Stubbs, Drew ($4,970,000)


to Makanda Cartel (John Law) for:
Hunter, Torii ($6,610,000)
Kearns, Austin ($3,600,000)
Jimenez, Ubaldo ($7,290,000)
Thornton, Matt ($3,730,000)

[tcochran]

[quote:a7877771d3="The Turtle"]Date of trade: Thu, 07/21, 10:48:41am EST

Finders Keepers (The Turtle) traded:
Bernadina, Roger ($1,200,000)
Gonzalez, Gio ($3,850,000)
Veras, Jose ($1,380,000)
Stubbs, Drew ($4,970,000)


to Makanda Cartel (John Law) for:
Hunter, Torii ($6,610,000)
Kearns, Austin ($3,600,000)
Jimenez, Ubaldo ($7,290,000)
Thornton, Matt ($3,730,000)[/quote:a7877771d3]


[b:a7877771d3]Turtle, please explain why such a lopsided deal should be allowed by the league.[/b:a7877771d3]

[kaviksdad]

Looks like Turtle wants to win a championship this season - at the expense of sucking next year.

Am I right? :P

[tcochran]

[quote:f698cbe82a="kaviksdad"]Looks like Turtle wants to win a championship this season - at the expense of sucking next year.

Am I right? :P[/quote:f698cbe82a]

That would make sense if players with any greater future value were going to John Law. Doesn't look like it, though...

[The Turtle]

[quote:18d61186f1="tcochran"][quote:18d61186f1="The Turtle"]Date of trade: Thu, 07/21, 10:48:41am EST

Finders Keepers (The Turtle) traded:
Bernadina, Roger ($1,200,000)
Gonzalez, Gio ($3,850,000)
Veras, Jose ($1,380,000)
Stubbs, Drew ($4,970,000)


to Makanda Cartel (John Law) for:
Hunter, Torii ($6,610,000)
Kearns, Austin ($3,600,000)
Jimenez, Ubaldo ($7,290,000)
Thornton, Matt ($3,730,000)[/quote:18d61186f1]


[b:18d61186f1]Turtle, please explain why such a lopsided deal should be allowed by the league.[/b:18d61186f1][/quote:18d61186f1]


You ***** about this trade? Yet, Qksilver all but robs Rant on a deal for Hosmer and nothing gets said? really?

I gave up a lot in this deal. Gio Gonzalez will be a 6-7M+ pitcher next season and for the next 10.

Drew Stubbs obviously has more upside than Torri Hunter (he is 10 years younger and is a great CF with speed and some pop... if he ever hits for average ...) and Jose Veras has a 1.1something WHIP. And Roger Bernadina is a great OF with speed who can play all 3 positions and can really help a team with depth and maybe even start a couple of years out of the next 10, since he is young too.

Meanwhile, I get back Austin Kearns who is done after this season, and Matt Thornton, who has a 1.6 something WHIP in 2011. And Hunter? I doubt he ever gets above a .700 OPS again at age 36-37 and is now a below average RF and not a great CF.

The only player I get with upside is Jimenez and with Coors Field behind him he may never have a card like 2010 again. He is hot right now, but still has a 4.01 ERA and 1.35 WHIP.

I expect everyone I got but Jimenez will be a drop for me next season. Everyone I gave up is worth keeping.

[tcochran]

[quote:08c07b8d59="The Turtle"][quote:08c07b8d59="tcochran"][quote:08c07b8d59="The Turtle"]Date of trade: Thu, 07/21, 10:48:41am EST

Finders Keepers (The Turtle) traded:
Bernadina, Roger ($1,200,000)
Gonzalez, Gio ($3,850,000)
Veras, Jose ($1,380,000)
Stubbs, Drew ($4,970,000)


to Makanda Cartel (John Law) for:
Hunter, Torii ($6,610,000)
Kearns, Austin ($3,600,000)
Jimenez, Ubaldo ($7,290,000)
Thornton, Matt ($3,730,000)[/quote:08c07b8d59]


[b:08c07b8d59]Turtle, please explain why such a lopsided deal should be allowed by the league.[/b:08c07b8d59][/quote:08c07b8d59]


You ***** about this trade? Yet, Qksilver all but robs Rant on a deal for Hosmer and nothing gets said? really?

I gave up a lot in this deal. Gio Gonzalez will be a 6-7M+ pitcher next season and for the next 10.

Drew Stubbs obviously has more upside than Torri Hunter (he is 10 years younger and is a great CF with speed and some pop... if he ever hits for average ...) and Jose Veras has a 1.1something WHIP. And Roger Bernadina is a great OF with speed who can play all 3 positions and can really help a team with depth and maybe even start a couple of years out of the next 10, since he is young too.

Meanwhile, I get back Austin Kearns who is done after this season, and Matt Thornton, who has a 1.6 something WHIP in 2011. And Hunter? I doubt he ever gets above a .700 OPS again at age 36-37 and is now a below average RF and not a great CF.

The only player I get with upside is Jimenez and with Coors Field behind him he may never have a card like 2010 again. He is hot right now, but still has a 4.01 ERA and 1.35 WHIP.

I expect everyone I got but Jimenez will be a drop for me next season. Everyone I gave up is worth keeping.[/quote:08c07b8d59]

I still think JLaw got robbed -- but if he's happy, it's OK with me, I guess.

[The Turtle]

and I thought this was much worse:

Qksilver gets:
C Santana
T Hudson
D Ortiz
Zumaya
#2 FA 2010 (#30)
#7 FA 2011
#1 prospect (#5 overall)

Rant gets:
Wieters
Buchholz
Hafner
my last 2 FA picks in 2010
Hosmer (prospect)
#4 FA 2011
#1 prospect pick (#21, my 2nd in the round)

But everyone has their own opinions on players.

[kaviksdad]

Between Turtle, Dave and I we've made 3 deals involving around 358 players - all trying to win it all this season.

And as much as I'd love the commish to void this deal, I think it would be the epitomy of hypocracy to call for it.

The only problem I have with it is it makes my job all that much harder...

[tcochran]

[quote:4997187486="kaviksdad"]Between Turtle, Dave and I we've made 3 deals involving around 358 players - all trying to win it all this season.

And as much as I'd love the commish to void this deal, I think it would be the epitomy of hypocracy to call for it.

The only problem I have with it is it makes my job all that much harder...[/quote:4997187486]

OK, fight it out, guys!

[The Turtle]

@kavisksdad -- I did this deal because you forced my hand. otherwise I would have stood pat. See you in the playoffs (this year, not next... next year I will try my best to finish .500).