josh gibson

Postby danielz » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:56 pm

I have a current $100 team thru 138 games that has both Gibson and Bagwell.

Gibson Bagwell
**511**520*** atbats
**118**115***Runs
**79***60****Walks
**44***29****Doubles
**10***5*****Triples
**52***44****HRs
**147**116***RBI
*.376**.308**batting average
*.456**.382**on base pct
*.806**.637**slugging

Gibson has faced lefties 174 of 590 plate appearances, 29%
Bagwell has faced lefties 188 of 580 plate appearances 32%
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Postby PotKettleBlack » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:21 am

[quote:804812e215="danielz"]I have a current $100 team thru 138 games that has both Gibson and Bagwell.

Gibson Bagwell
*.376**.308**batting average
*.456**.382**on base pct
*.806**.637**slugging

Gibson has faced lefties 174 of 590 plate appearances, 29%
Bagwell has faced lefties 188 of 580 plate appearances 32%[/quote:804812e215]

As I was saying, Gibson doesn't have Bagwell's difficulties with right handed pitching.
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Postby 2cityfan » Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:41 pm

I got good numbers from Gibson, Oscar Charleston was the huge disappointment on this team

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Postby motherscratcher » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:04 pm

I currently have a team with Gibson as my catcher. We are 54 games in. Josh is currently on his 3rd DL stint, with 2 of them being 15 games. I don't know how to explain it.
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Postby PotKettleBlack » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:26 pm

[quote:c8e756c51b="2cityfan"]I got good numbers from Gibson, Oscar Charleston was the huge disappointment on this team

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=287914[/quote:c8e756c51b]

Not sure how that's all that disappointing considering Kingdome's low BP singles rate. A little disappointing, but gold glove defense at a key spot and 600 PA durability with .900+ OPS.
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Postby Honyox R Us » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:05 am

[quote:97446a1da2="motherscratcher"]I currently have a team with Gibson as my catcher. We are 54 games in. Josh is currently on his 3rd DL stint, with 2 of them being 15 games. I don't know how to explain it.[/quote:97446a1da2]

That's the risk of picking him. I cringed every morning when I'd open up the team's results, expecting to see that red '[color=red:97446a1da2][b:97446a1da2]I[/b:97446a1da2][/color:97446a1da2]' next to his name. He played 144 games for me. I believe he had a 15 game injury and a 3 game injury but can't remember for sure.

I think there's a flaw in the injury bug, particularly with the Negro League players and the 1994 cards. Matt Williams' and Bagwell's come to mind. In 1994, a total of 113 games were played, or something very close to that, right?

Bagwell played in 110 of 113 games. For those of you calculating at home, that's 97.3% of the games. Yet he has a 15-game injury risk because of his total PAs. Matt Williams, same thing only worse. He played in 112 of 113 games and yet he has a 15-game injury risk, even though he played in 99% of all games that season. If you divide his total PAs into the 113 games played that season, he averages 4.23 PAs/game. 162 game season *4.23 PAs/game = 685 PAs. Bagwell's card extrapolates out to 667 PAs in a 162 game season...

I'm sure there are other '94 cards I've neglected to mention but those are the ones that jumped out at me. That is [u:97446a1da2][b:97446a1da2]utterly ridiculous [/b:97446a1da2][/u:97446a1da2]and something that could/should EASILY be rectified by the powers that be.
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Postby rburgh » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:39 am

When our net play keeper league ran into 1994, we ratioed all the player stats to 162 games by team so the game injury engine wouldn't go bananas.

Bernie should get strat to do this for all seasons prior to the advent of the 162 game season. Of course, a lot of salaries would have to get readjusted.

Maybe leaving things alone is the best solution. It provides a lot of injury risk-reward decisions (Josh, Manny, Larry Walker 99, Clemente 69, Honus Wagner 09, Rap Dixon, Eddie Collins 11, Bagwell 94, Joe D 39 to name a few).

I sympathize with motherscratcher, I had a team with Clemente 69 and he got injured 7 times in the first 99 games, including twice when he was injured on his first PA after returning from an injury. I finally cut him.

For the most part, I think the injury risk cards are priced so that you have to think long and hard about using them. I'm planning to go to war with Josh in Jack Murphy Stadium tomorrow (almost 50% LH starters in the league) and expect him to do well.
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Maybe I'm lucky.

Postby The Rivs » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:53 pm

I use Josh as often as possible, I think he is one of the best values in the pool. Here's my fave season from him....He doesn't get injured as often as you think.

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=258758
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Postby raslavens » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:06 am

I'm going to handcuff Gibson with Beckwith. Hope it works!
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Postby MICHAELTARBELL » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:15 pm

Any league I have ever been in with Gibson he leads the league in almost every statistical category....
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