Moose's 4 team ATG theme

[ebbets1957]

I am in. I decided to keep the Angels....thx

[PotKettleBlack]

[quote:69b0e28939="ggrover15"]Pot what do you mean Carr + Carr = 2 people.. I must of missed something? :)[/quote:69b0e28939]

Moose said

[quote:69b0e28939]ok so since two people have objected, I will have to reverse my earlier decision and not allow either of the two "situations"... If no one would have objected that would have been different but two people and that's enough. [/quote:69b0e28939]

But the above thread had the following posts after the ruling:
Moose - Ted's Head in a freezer (true!)
Moose - Random set
Moose - Divisions
Moose - Created the league
Moose - New Frenzy Time observation
Carr20 - "I hate to be a jerk... but..."
FrankM - In support of the ruling.
Carr20 - Disagreement with Frank's interpretation.
Moose - "Since two people have objected"

Thus Carr20 + Carr20 equals 2 people. Unless there is an objection outside the thread.

I do not object to the objection, and since treyomo jumped in agreeing with the new ruling, we now have the two necessary for overturn.

In point of fact, I think the two situations (Ebbets/Wilhelm - PKB/Clemens) are actually related but different. Ebbets wanted to have cake (Cal-EXP) and eat it (Expensive Wilhelm). I wanted to use a Clemens that was carded to me, not the (marginally more) expensive one that was not selected.

But, I really don't want to press the point. (obviously, based on the amount of text above :roll: )

[mighty moose]

Granted it's still early and I need more coffee - but I didn't catch a word of that. - Maybe I can go back and re-read it later. :shock:

[mighty moose]

Coffee is kicking in - I just noticed that the league has filled so I went in and set the frenzy for the EARLIEST POSSIBLE TIME - 2 pm EST - so an hour and a half from now. 8-)

[ebbets1957]

Hey! I like Cake. I probably would have used the Angels Whilhelm anyways, cause the expensive Hoyt would not be so hot in may park. All good.... :D

[mighty moose]

ok i see the issue now - frank was defending my first decision - he was not opposing it - so it was not two people who were upset about the decision.

anyway - the FINAL and decisive ruling here is as it was in the original rules. The most expensive card in a players set determines the team he plays for.

So both requests to stretch those rules are denied and we are all happy as clams.

Oh and the draft just ran - frenzy away. 8-)

[2cityfan]

moose just ot float an idea to improve make the league/team selection process:

It kind of bothers me that SOM has team groupings for COL exp - 2 players, FLA exp - 1 player and AZ exp - 2 players...

No one would or should draft any of these teams early since there are so few players. What if we combined these "team fragments" with other existing teams to make getting these players into our league more viable.
Impact players like Randy Johnson, Todd Helton and Larry Walker are among these teams..

What is MON exp, includes COL exp;
DET exp, includes FLA exp and Seattle exp includes Randy Johnson and Bost exp includes Curt Schilling..

thoughts?

[mighty moose]

I agree that some of those sets is quite small.

It would have to be something that the majority would go along with. Feel free to work on it and post your proposal in detail. We have time before we need to finalize the rules.

[carr20]

For what it is worth, I like 2city's idea. With the exception of Helton, everyone is placed with teams that they played for, so that is all logical.

Since Helton doesn't really belong in Montreal, and has been a Rockie for life, perhaps he can be placed on another "lighter weight" franchise in order to attract a selection. Pedro and Walker probably make MTL desirable enough.

And while we are talking about tweaks, I think the NEL should maybe count as two franchises so that someone selecting them doesn't pick again until the 3rd round. Not trying to complicate this unecessarily, but that might balance things better (even tho' as we speak NEL team is not in playoffs if season ended today).

[mighty moose]

Yes, I think NeL does need some "adjustments" - it's a "for sure" first pick.

Actually, you only have two groupings with a tiny amount of people in them. COL-exp and FLA-exp. All the rest of the groupings are large enough to have significant players in them. FLA only has Cabrera on it and no other seasons on his card.

But you know, when you get to your fourth pick, sometimes you are only picking from that group to get one player, like in my case for The Big Train. Maybe someone wants Helton along those same lines.

I don't know what to do with COL. Lump it into some other grouping that is unattractive that no one would ever pick ? Logically, I would want to dump it into a DIFFERENT COL grouping - but there aren't any.

I'm still open on this one. Montreal might be a good idea.