How Is Hit and Run Rating Figured?

[beavis]

Take, for example, the immortal Stuffy McInnis.

In 1911, he is recorded as having zero strikeouts. Granted, this means nothing beyond the recorded number. Regardless, there is nary a K to be found on his card.

Yet, despite Stuffy's universal contact making, he's rated as a "B" hit and run hitter. How was this determined? How could any card be more "A" than the card that always makes contact and hits .321 while doing it? This is not to mention that he got his nickname for having "the stuff." I mean, he had [i:22652de03d]the stuff.[/i:22652de03d]

FWIW, Cobb's 1912 (.409) has 7 Ks on his card despite zero recorded Ks. And he's also a "B."

I sense some kind of anti-Stuffy conspiracy. Is Hal Richman a Yalie or something?

[alvarndc]

I may be incorrect here, but something tells me this is one of those oddities of Strat -- namely, there are NO "A" hit and run ratings.

Pretty sure the highest rating is "B".

[bkeat23]

Runner on first being held, I think moves a B to an A, H&R.

if there was a A rating, there would be what A+++? Z ? :D

[rburgh]

There are no "A" hit and run ratings.

McInnis (and many others) have 0 strikeouts recorded for their full seasons for the simple reason that strikeout records weren't kept for batters for many years.

[rjohaire]

alvarndc is correct - if runner is held, H&R moves up a notch (C to B, B to A) sadly, runner held is something out of our control - HAL and his magic determine when and who.
An A has a 27% success rate - half the time the pitcher will determine sucess though.

[beavis]

Our relationship with Strat is sort of like our relationship with God -- all mystery, faith, and capriciousness.

I wonder, if stealing goes from AAA to E, why hit and run can't start with "A" and escalate to "AA" or "AAA" in a runner held situation?

Alas, Stuffy and I capitulate in the face of the great unknown.

[macnole]

and because of that lack of control over situational baseball, the H&R in strat is typically a losing strategy for ATG, except under very specific team conditions (low cap, lineup of rabbits, pitcher's park, etc).

[PotKettleBlack]

[quote:0cfcdcd979="macnole"]and because of that lack of control over situational baseball, the H&R in strat is typically a losing strategy for ATG, except under very specific team conditions (low cap, lineup of rabbits, pitcher's park, etc).[/quote:0cfcdcd979]

I do have a fondness for some HnR with a certain team construction pattern that I call 5bats/5gloves. 1 guy who is a two way star, say Charleston. Four guys who are great bats, say Ted, Frank Thomas, Jimmy Wynn at DH, and Cheap Boggs. 4 guys who are great gloves at SS, 2b, C and a corner of or 3B. Those guys should have at least one small ball skill (bunt A, HnR B, +clutch, A+ steal. They don't have to hit for much.

Set the team to HnR and Bunt Normal to aggressive, and set the five bats to not HnR or bunt. Top lineup plays big, gloves play small.