Hidden Statistics

Hidden Statistics

Postby supertyphoon » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:23 am

Somewhere in the inner recesses of the game engine there are digital bean counters and statisticians totaling up stats that are updated and displayed every night on the leader boards and team fielding pages, but many of these stats are totally hidden from us to help us evaluate our players (listed below). Unless a player happens to be among the league leaders, you don't really know how he's doing for some of the peripheral reasons we select players for our teams. Is he a good pinch-hitter? Does he ground into a high percentage of double plays? Does a pitcher give up a lot of extra bases through wild pitches, balks and stolen bases? So much I'd like to know...

But the one thing that should be available to help us be better managers, but isn't, are fielding statistics. Most experienced players will tell you that team defense is often the main difference between making the playoffs or not, and yet we still are in the dark if you happen to want to see if your middle infielders are making the plays they should, if your outfielders are cutting down baserunners, etc.

A historical baseball simulation I used to play would give you detailed individual fielding stats such as fielding pct, putouts, assists and range factors. Since that information is already being recorded behind the scenes and readily available for each set of games, would it be that hard to give us some better fielding statistics?

Batting:

INTENTIONAL WALKS
HIT BY PITCH
SACRIFICE HITS
GIDP
PINCH HIT BAT AVG
RUNSCREATED/27OUT
TOTAL AVERAGE

Pitching:

GAMES PITCHED
COMPLETE GAMES
GAMES FINISHED
SHUTOUTS
WILD PITCHES
BALKS
OPPONENT STEALS
OPPONENT SB PCT
PITCHER'S BAT AVG
PITCHER'S HRs
RUN SUPPORT
INHERITED SCORE %

Fielding:

PO: putouts
Ast: assists
OFAst: outfield assists
TC: total chances
DP: double plays
GDP: ground ball double plays
PB: passed balls
OSB: opponents' stolen bases
OCS: opponents' caught stealing
OSB%: opponents' stolen base percentage
AVG: fielding percentage

Team:

SQZ-ATT
H&R--ATT-ADV
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Postby fraank123 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:36 am

Good point, I too would like to see more statistical information available if it was not that difficult to implement. In addition to the player's performance over the last 10 games as shown now on their individual cards if possible i'd like to see an option for additional time frames as well to see how the player is trending. An option to see how the team is doing for different time segments would also be interesting and helpful for someone who may change managerial settings or lineups or whatever midstream.
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Postby nevdully's » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:05 am

Great Post Nexrad! I agree 100%. It would be tons of fun, interesting and very very useful.
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Postby drfreeze49 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:54 am

I would love to see all the stats that are in the cd-rom game
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Postby Mean Dean » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:02 am

The computer game gives you what you most need to know, which is the X-roll results. e.g.:

[img:b8275e3ada]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/meandean/public/samplestratfieldingreport.jpg[/img:b8275e3ada]

There is also a "manager profiles" report with many of the stats [b:b8275e3ada]nexrad[/b:b8275e3ada] mentions.

[img:b8275e3ada]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/meandean/public/samplemanagerprofilesreport.jpg[/img:b8275e3ada]
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Postby JOSEPHKENDALL » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:51 pm

I think the number of times the rolls land on the pitcher card or hitter card for a pitcher and hitter is very important. If I knew this, I would know whether my player is or is not doing well based on their card or not. As it is know, I don't know exactly why they aren't performing well unless I tally every game which isn't something I want to do for the number of teams I have going.
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Postby wavygravy2k » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:12 pm

Another thing is under Manager Profiles, for example, it lists things like SAC, IBB, etc. It would be nice to be able to bring up the games when a particular stat happened.
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Postby wavygravy2k » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:04 pm

Maybe we can add a search feature to the Team Schedule pages.
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Postby macnole » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:50 pm

*like*
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Postby Mean Dean » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:28 pm

[quote:6cc5d897d0="joekendall"]I think the number of times the rolls land on the pitcher card or hitter card for a pitcher and hitter is very important. [/quote:6cc5d897d0]Yeah, there is a very complete "Board Game Breakdowns" report that has this for teams...

[img:6cc5d897d0]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/meandean/public/sampleboardgamebreakdownsreport.jpg[/img:6cc5d897d0]

... and players (harder to find -- you have to go to the obscure "Report Writer" section -- but it's there.)

[img:6cc5d897d0]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/meandean/public/sampleindivboardgamebreakdownsreport.jpg[/img:6cc5d897d0]

(BTW, I am 135 games in, so, see how often clutch hitting comes up. :roll:
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