R2 Question

R2 Question

Postby mbertolli » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:42 pm

What determines if an RP is an R1 or an R2? Is it average lengh per outing or total innings pitched?

Any idea what Strat uses to decide?
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Postby Palmtana » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:29 pm

A quick glance looks like its the former. Details to follow.
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Postby Palmtana » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:33 pm

IP/G it is. I looked at 15 R1's and R2's from this years set. None of the R2's had a ratio of IP/G less than 1. Veras' was the lowest at 48IP/48G = 1.

With one exception, none of the R1's had a ratio higher than 1. Lewis had the highest at 36/37.1 = .97. The exception was Farnsworth. 64/60 = 1.06.

A couple of other tidbits I've discovered over the years: 29 2/3 innings are required for any pitcher to receive a card and with the rare exception (Tony Pena in this years set has an S6 with only 3 starts but he pitched 100 innings overall) starters need 4 GS's to get an S rating.

For you pre-card and keeper league drafters: Dana Eveland came into his last start for the Dodgers needing 5 2/3 to get a card. He lasted 5 2/3 exactly. 5 starts on the season. 1.15/3.03.
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Postby Mean Dean » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:02 pm

[quote:77d32c90e4]29 2/3 innings are required for any pitcher to receive a card [/quote:77d32c90e4]Just to be picky, this is not a hard-and-fast rule. Joba Chamberlain got a card with 24 IP in 2007, and Francisco Rodriguez got one with a mere 5.2 IP in 2002.

Factors most likely include playoff performance (it would have been very difficult to simulate the '02 postseason without a K-Rod card); saves (you'd be more likely to get a card with them than without); and the number of other pitchers on the team that they could potentially card.
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Postby Palmtana » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:12 pm

My post refers to the online game only.
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Postby Mean Dean » Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:04 pm

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I can't imagine a card as good as Joba or K-Rod's that had <30 IP would be allowed in the game. Letting people use such a card for 100-150 IP in a season, which is not too difficult to get out of a reliever in SOM, would be pretty crazy. A crappy card might get in, though ;)
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Postby mbertolli » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:46 pm

So bottom line... If an RP has more IP than Apps its likely he will be an R2.
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Postby the splinter » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:16 pm

[quote:162222b701]IP/G it is. I looked at 15 R1's and R2's from this years set. None of the R2's had a ratio of IP/G less than 1. [/quote:162222b701]

So Kimbrel, Venters and O"Flaherty will be R2?

WOW!!
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Postby AeroDave10 » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:31 pm

No, in fact it's quite possible that none of them will be an R2. Venters is the only one with a chance I think.

O'Flaherty - 78 G, 73 2/3 IP
Kimbrel - 79 G, 77 IP
Venters - 85 G, 88 IP


Three guys worth noting that should be getting R2 status:

Tyler Clippard 72 G, 88 1/3 IP
Jim Johnson 69 G, 91 IP
Greg Holland 46 G, 60 IP

Venters, Al Alburquerque (41 G, 43 1/3 IP) and Daniel Bard (70 G, 73 IP), as well as a few others have a shot, too.
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Postby mbertolli » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:18 am

[quote:d9613224f1="AeroDave10"]No, in fact it's quite possible that none of them will be an R2. Venters is the only one with a chance I think.

O'Flaherty - 78 G, 73 2/3 IP
Kimbrel - 79 G, 77 IP
Venters - 85 G, 88 IP


Three guys worth noting that should be getting R2 status:

Tyler Clippard 72 G, 88 1/3 IP
Jim Johnson 69 G, 91 IP
Greg Holland 46 G, 60 IP

Venters, Al Alburquerque (41 G, 43 1/3 IP) and Daniel Bard (70 G, 73 IP), as well as a few others have a shot, too.[/quote:d9613224f1]


SHHH Dont give away all my draft targets! LOL
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