[quote:9661346bf0]Honestly, Fielder would be the better choice because they could use a big lefty bat more than a righty bat (since they have Werth)[/quote:9661346bf0]
Curious, did you factor Bryce Harper in to your evaluation there or do you think he still needs more seasoning? If he is ready next year and as advertised there could be your LH bat. Pujols would then be a nice anchor.
Albert Pujols could be the greatest player ever
by Valen » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:30 am
[quote:295c5fd591]Teams that could use a 1B upgrade and spend money
Texas
Anaheim
Cubs
Seattle (odd, but Smoak at 1B, but could DH him or Albert)
Detroit (Could let Ordonez walk and install Pujols at first and Cabrera at DH) [/quote:295c5fd591]
Texas has a lot of faith in Moreland and have a couple kids in minors who could be ready for a shot, not to mention the need to keep first base open for Young and Napoli to get some ABs.
Anaheim had a rookie who put up 30 HR and Morales should be back. Hard to believe he has missed 2 years with that injury. Spending 30 mil may not be wise use of money when you already have 2 guys in house with 30 HR potential.
Cubs a definite possibility.
Seattle, no way if Pujols values winning and ever wants to see playoffs again. Also, if Pujols is thinking about his legacy and finishing as career leader in HRs and possibly several other counting stats he will want to avoid parks like Seattle like the plague. Signing with them would be a career killer.
Detroit is an interesting possibility I had not considered. You could have something there. But that ballpark again would cut down on his offensive numbers similar to Seattle.
If I were him I would talk to 3 teams, Cards, Chicago, and Texas. All 3 offer stat friendly ballparks. Cards and Rangers with him anchoring lineup should be perennial playoff contenders. I might even give both home town discounts. Wrigley would help his offensive numbers but they seem to have a knack for inventing ways to mess up playoff runs. I only use them to drive up the price for other teams.
Of course I go back to Rangers being happy with first base situation. Signing Pujols would have to cut in to the playing time of Young or Napoli which is undesirable. Full effort will be put in to resigning CJ before even considering Pujols. Albert would have to be considered a long shot second choice ala Beltre if they cannot resign Wilson and choose to make an offensive splash as plan B.
Texas
Anaheim
Cubs
Seattle (odd, but Smoak at 1B, but could DH him or Albert)
Detroit (Could let Ordonez walk and install Pujols at first and Cabrera at DH) [/quote:295c5fd591]
Texas has a lot of faith in Moreland and have a couple kids in minors who could be ready for a shot, not to mention the need to keep first base open for Young and Napoli to get some ABs.
Anaheim had a rookie who put up 30 HR and Morales should be back. Hard to believe he has missed 2 years with that injury. Spending 30 mil may not be wise use of money when you already have 2 guys in house with 30 HR potential.
Cubs a definite possibility.
Seattle, no way if Pujols values winning and ever wants to see playoffs again. Also, if Pujols is thinking about his legacy and finishing as career leader in HRs and possibly several other counting stats he will want to avoid parks like Seattle like the plague. Signing with them would be a career killer.
Detroit is an interesting possibility I had not considered. You could have something there. But that ballpark again would cut down on his offensive numbers similar to Seattle.
If I were him I would talk to 3 teams, Cards, Chicago, and Texas. All 3 offer stat friendly ballparks. Cards and Rangers with him anchoring lineup should be perennial playoff contenders. I might even give both home town discounts. Wrigley would help his offensive numbers but they seem to have a knack for inventing ways to mess up playoff runs. I only use them to drive up the price for other teams.
Of course I go back to Rangers being happy with first base situation. Signing Pujols would have to cut in to the playing time of Young or Napoli which is undesirable. Full effort will be put in to resigning CJ before even considering Pujols. Albert would have to be considered a long shot second choice ala Beltre if they cannot resign Wilson and choose to make an offensive splash as plan B.
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by Valen » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:39 am
[quote:cea4932b76]Texas would be a great landing spot, if only they were not so right handed already.[/quote:cea4932b76]
Check the records verses LH and RH. Might surprise you.
vs RH 70-45
vs LH 26-21
Probably skewed a little due to injuries of Cruz and Beltre. But then again it is probabably money that Cruz will spend a couple stints on DL.
Check the records verses LH and RH. Might surprise you.
vs RH 70-45
vs LH 26-21
Probably skewed a little due to injuries of Cruz and Beltre. But then again it is probabably money that Cruz will spend a couple stints on DL.
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by thetallguy747 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:09 am
If Pujols never played another game, he'd be a unanimous first ballot selection for the Hall of Fame. I think that's a good measuring stick for greatness.
Kevin A
P.S. He'd never sign with a team that wanted to make him a DH. He takes a lot of pride in being one of the best defensive first basemen around. And he's too involved mentally in every aspect of what's going on in the game to want to spend it sitting on the bench waiting to bat.
Kevin A
P.S. He'd never sign with a team that wanted to make him a DH. He takes a lot of pride in being one of the best defensive first basemen around. And he's too involved mentally in every aspect of what's going on in the game to want to spend it sitting on the bench waiting to bat.
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by AeroDave10 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:40 am
Quick note on Pujols to Detroit - NO WAY! ... What happens to Miguel Cabrera (signed through 2015), Victor Martinez (signed through 2014), and Alex Avila (under team control 3-4 more years)??
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by PotKettleBlack » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:50 am
[quote:47fe392cdb="AeroDave10"]Quick note on Pujols to Detroit - NO WAY! ... What happens to Miguel Cabrera (signed through 2015), Victor Martinez (signed through 2014), and Alex Avila (under team control 3-4 more years)??[/quote:47fe392cdb]
True those. The V-Mart signing, especially, moved them out of the Pujols discussion, since I think it's unlikely that Pujols or Cabrera will move back to third anytime soon.
I think he could hit for average and doubles in Comerica (with division games at Target, The Cell, The Jake, and the Kauff). But yeah, take them off the list.
Use the Cubs threat as leverage against the Cards.
On the Rangers: Faith in Moreland, except that you could move him to a corner OF spot. No obligation, and could possibly trade him for pitching if you had an Albert. Napoli is in his final arb year, so could get very expensive from a base salary of $5.8 given the second half he put up (seriously, best hitter in ball over the second half). Michael Young... there's the real problem with Albert to Texas... 2 years, $16/ left.
The shame of it for Albert is the timing. If he'd been out last year, he'd've landed in Boston, gotten Carl Crawford + Adrian Gonzalez money, and been in a park where he'd do massive damage. In 09, He'd've had suitors in Boston and the Bronx and would be making in excess of A-Rod money. 2008, and the Yankees would have let ARod walk and signed Pujols to ARod money. I think the Cards are lucky, in that the massive spenders are either broke, set at 1B, or developing young stars there, oh, and Prince Fielder is also free.
True those. The V-Mart signing, especially, moved them out of the Pujols discussion, since I think it's unlikely that Pujols or Cabrera will move back to third anytime soon.
I think he could hit for average and doubles in Comerica (with division games at Target, The Cell, The Jake, and the Kauff). But yeah, take them off the list.
Use the Cubs threat as leverage against the Cards.
On the Rangers: Faith in Moreland, except that you could move him to a corner OF spot. No obligation, and could possibly trade him for pitching if you had an Albert. Napoli is in his final arb year, so could get very expensive from a base salary of $5.8 given the second half he put up (seriously, best hitter in ball over the second half). Michael Young... there's the real problem with Albert to Texas... 2 years, $16/ left.
The shame of it for Albert is the timing. If he'd been out last year, he'd've landed in Boston, gotten Carl Crawford + Adrian Gonzalez money, and been in a park where he'd do massive damage. In 09, He'd've had suitors in Boston and the Bronx and would be making in excess of A-Rod money. 2008, and the Yankees would have let ARod walk and signed Pujols to ARod money. I think the Cards are lucky, in that the massive spenders are either broke, set at 1B, or developing young stars there, oh, and Prince Fielder is also free.
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by PotKettleBlack » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:52 am
[quote:5196a9bffe="Valen"][quote:5196a9bffe]Texas would be a great landing spot, if only they were not so right handed already.[/quote:5196a9bffe]
Check the records verses LH and RH. Might surprise you.
vs RH 70-45
vs LH 26-21
Probably skewed a little due to injuries of Cruz and Beltre. But then again it is probabably money that Cruz will spend a couple stints on DL.[/quote:5196a9bffe]
Not saying they don't hit righties, just looking up and down the lineup, and it's a lot of RH bats when healthy.
Check the records verses LH and RH. Might surprise you.
vs RH 70-45
vs LH 26-21
Probably skewed a little due to injuries of Cruz and Beltre. But then again it is probabably money that Cruz will spend a couple stints on DL.[/quote:5196a9bffe]
Not saying they don't hit righties, just looking up and down the lineup, and it's a lot of RH bats when healthy.
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by geekor » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:29 am
[quote:5055028ebb="Valen"][quote:5055028ebb]Teams that could use a 1B upgrade and spend money
Texas
Anaheim
Cubs
Seattle (odd, but Smoak at 1B, but could DH him or Albert)
Detroit (Could let Ordonez walk and install Pujols at first and Cabrera at DH) [/quote:5055028ebb]
Texas has a lot of faith in Moreland and have a couple kids in minors who could be ready for a shot, not to mention the need to keep first base open for Young and Napoli to get some ABs.
[b:5055028ebb]Anaheim had a rookie who put up 30 HR and Morales should be back. Hard to believe he has missed 2 years with that injury. Spending 30 mil may not be wise use of money when you already have 2 guys in house with 30 HR potential.[/b:5055028ebb]
Cubs a definite possibility.
Seattle, no way if Pujols values winning and ever wants to see playoffs again. Also, if Pujols is thinking about his legacy and finishing as career leader in HRs and possibly several other counting stats he will want to avoid parks like Seattle like the plague. Signing with them would be a career killer.
Detroit is an interesting possibility I had not considered. You could have something there. But that ballpark again would cut down on his offensive numbers similar to Seattle.
If I were him I would talk to 3 teams, Cards, Chicago, and Texas. All 3 offer stat friendly ballparks. Cards and Rangers with him anchoring lineup should be perennial playoff contenders. I might even give both home town discounts. Wrigley would help his offensive numbers but they seem to have a knack for inventing ways to mess up playoff runs. I only use them to drive up the price for other teams.
Of course I go back to Rangers being happy with first base situation. Signing Pujols would have to cut in to the playing time of Young or Napoli which is undesirable. Full effort will be put in to resigning CJ before even considering Pujols. Albert would have to be considered a long shot second choice ala Beltre if they cannot resign Wilson and choose to make an offensive splash as plan B.[/quote:5055028ebb]
LOL, Kendrys hasn't played in 2 seasons, who knows if he will. Trumbo will never be a great player. Any player with his inability to draw walks and swings like that (check his minor league + major and similar players) won't ever amount to a good player. There are many who has similar career arcs, and all were not starting a a couple of seasons, out of baseball in 6-8. He was a nice fill in, but no one to build around.
Texas
Anaheim
Cubs
Seattle (odd, but Smoak at 1B, but could DH him or Albert)
Detroit (Could let Ordonez walk and install Pujols at first and Cabrera at DH) [/quote:5055028ebb]
Texas has a lot of faith in Moreland and have a couple kids in minors who could be ready for a shot, not to mention the need to keep first base open for Young and Napoli to get some ABs.
[b:5055028ebb]Anaheim had a rookie who put up 30 HR and Morales should be back. Hard to believe he has missed 2 years with that injury. Spending 30 mil may not be wise use of money when you already have 2 guys in house with 30 HR potential.[/b:5055028ebb]
Cubs a definite possibility.
Seattle, no way if Pujols values winning and ever wants to see playoffs again. Also, if Pujols is thinking about his legacy and finishing as career leader in HRs and possibly several other counting stats he will want to avoid parks like Seattle like the plague. Signing with them would be a career killer.
Detroit is an interesting possibility I had not considered. You could have something there. But that ballpark again would cut down on his offensive numbers similar to Seattle.
If I were him I would talk to 3 teams, Cards, Chicago, and Texas. All 3 offer stat friendly ballparks. Cards and Rangers with him anchoring lineup should be perennial playoff contenders. I might even give both home town discounts. Wrigley would help his offensive numbers but they seem to have a knack for inventing ways to mess up playoff runs. I only use them to drive up the price for other teams.
Of course I go back to Rangers being happy with first base situation. Signing Pujols would have to cut in to the playing time of Young or Napoli which is undesirable. Full effort will be put in to resigning CJ before even considering Pujols. Albert would have to be considered a long shot second choice ala Beltre if they cannot resign Wilson and choose to make an offensive splash as plan B.[/quote:5055028ebb]
LOL, Kendrys hasn't played in 2 seasons, who knows if he will. Trumbo will never be a great player. Any player with his inability to draw walks and swings like that (check his minor league + major and similar players) won't ever amount to a good player. There are many who has similar career arcs, and all were not starting a a couple of seasons, out of baseball in 6-8. He was a nice fill in, but no one to build around.
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