October BAseball is the Best
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by The Last Druid » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:43 pm
I agree with Valen's first point about the intentional walk but muscle memory from recently throwing four balls?? No. With that logic, why ever throw a warm-up pitch.
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by honestiago1 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:24 pm
Bullpen woes for the Rangers. Too bad. Thought they had the better team two years running, but no go. Cardinals made all the plays and wouldn't go away. Congrats.
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by PotKettleBlack » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:21 pm
[quote:6f37b7f5da="Simon31"]I work with people that tell me they can't watch Baseball because it's too slow and boring! I'm watching the game last night and just don't get the same impression! What excitement! :D[/quote:6f37b7f5da]
I think baseball takes a more patient mind, with more appreciation of nuance. There was an article today on Grantland.com about game six and how the lack of a clock in baseball can turn a sloppy game into an amazing game by the time it's over. More about what a great game game six was, but the lack of clock thing is a plus.
I think baseball takes a more patient mind, with more appreciation of nuance. There was an article today on Grantland.com about game six and how the lack of a clock in baseball can turn a sloppy game into an amazing game by the time it's over. More about what a great game game six was, but the lack of clock thing is a plus.
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by thetallguy747 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:42 am
Go crazy, folks, go crazy! Holy Cow!
Maybe Jack and Harry were doing the broadcast up in heaven. Or somewhere.
Kevin A
Maybe Jack and Harry were doing the broadcast up in heaven. Or somewhere.
Kevin A
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by Valen » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:28 pm
[quote:a8fff26eb9]With that logic, why ever throw a warm-up pitch.[/quote:a8fff26eb9]
With warmup pitches you try to throw strikes. As a former pitcher one of the things you try to do with those 8 pitches is get your arm slot right. I guarantee if you did a study the rate of walks is slightly higher following an intentional walk than in other scenarios. I have no study to fall back on but have seen it enough to recognize the pattern. A guy gets started throwing balls and just never gains command occasionally walking the next guy and very frequently falling behind. Anyone who knows baseball outside strat knows what that tends to lead to.
Note I am not talking always, only tendencies. But agree or not there is absolutely no comparision of 4 wide ones and 4 legitimate warmup pitches either in purpose or in result.
With warmup pitches you try to throw strikes. As a former pitcher one of the things you try to do with those 8 pitches is get your arm slot right. I guarantee if you did a study the rate of walks is slightly higher following an intentional walk than in other scenarios. I have no study to fall back on but have seen it enough to recognize the pattern. A guy gets started throwing balls and just never gains command occasionally walking the next guy and very frequently falling behind. Anyone who knows baseball outside strat knows what that tends to lead to.
Note I am not talking always, only tendencies. But agree or not there is absolutely no comparision of 4 wide ones and 4 legitimate warmup pitches either in purpose or in result.
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by Valen » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:43 pm
[quote:1bdc09e011]I work with people that tell me they can't watch Baseball because it's too slow and boring![/quote:1bdc09e011]
I would challenge that especially compared to football. Take a guys beer away from him so he is sober and knows what is happening. Take away the half dressed cheerleaders so all there is to do is watch the action. Turn off the scoreboard that replays the previous play 2 or 3 times. Then he will see football is 40 seconds of nothing followed by about 5 seconds of action, followed by another 40 seconds of nothing. I can DVR a game and skipping all the non-action and replays of every down and most football games are reduced from 3+ hours to about 15-20 minutes of real action.
Football does lend itself better to television because the action is compacted with lots of dead time spread between. That gives them time to replay the previous play and analyze it setting up the next play without risk of missing anything. That keeps the mind occupied and gives the feeling of more constant action even though there is less. They try doing too much of that in baseball and you miss a couple pitches which could mean missing a HR or other important play.
I would challenge that especially compared to football. Take a guys beer away from him so he is sober and knows what is happening. Take away the half dressed cheerleaders so all there is to do is watch the action. Turn off the scoreboard that replays the previous play 2 or 3 times. Then he will see football is 40 seconds of nothing followed by about 5 seconds of action, followed by another 40 seconds of nothing. I can DVR a game and skipping all the non-action and replays of every down and most football games are reduced from 3+ hours to about 15-20 minutes of real action.
Football does lend itself better to television because the action is compacted with lots of dead time spread between. That gives them time to replay the previous play and analyze it setting up the next play without risk of missing anything. That keeps the mind occupied and gives the feeling of more constant action even though there is less. They try doing too much of that in baseball and you miss a couple pitches which could mean missing a HR or other important play.
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