ATG VI New Card Batch #3 drops Thu, Nov. 17

[george barnard]

Ed Reulbach played with Joe Tinker for the 1905 Chicago Cubs


Joe Tinker played with Bob O'Farrell for the 1916 Chicago Cubs


Bob O'Farrell played with Phil Cavarretta for the 1934 Chicago Cubs


Phil Cavarretta played with Minnie Minoso for the 1955 Chicago White Sox


Minnie Minoso played with Harold Baines for the 1980 Chicago White Sox


Harold Baines played with Omar Vizquel for the 1999 Cleveland Indians


How to get from Ed Reulbach to Omar Vizquel

[george barnard]

In honor of Ducky Medwick, a great clip from the 1934 World Series.

[url]http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675044711_baseball-match_Detroit-Tigers_Saint-Louis-Cardinals_Frankie-Frisch[/url]

[Sheikyerboudi]

Ruth is a BEAST!!!! If Reulbach is a * starter, he will be tough. I like Medwick's card too.

-FZL

[george barnard]

And for Hoyt Wilhelm, a clip (from 1953)

[url]http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675020721_New-York-Giants_Leo-Durocher_Monte-Irvin_Daryl-Spencer_Dacey-Williams_Sam-Caledrone[/url]

[rburgh]

Note that Cy was 41 years old when he put up this latest card, which is clearly the best of his 3 in the set. That's odd, because 1901 was surely his best year by most analytical methods.

It's just another vagary of the Strat model. The AL batting line for 1908 was .239-.294-.304 while 1901 was .277-.339-.371. So his performance relative to league average in 1908, while not as impressive as his 1901, translates to a better pitching card.

Speaking of * and non-* starters, does anybody have any opinions on whether Wilhelm will be an *?

[WeatherNut]

Reulbach pitched 291.2 innings according to Baseball Reference. That should rate as SP*. By the way, he also hit >18< batters that year (that is a LOT). I guess no one dug in on him.

WN

[GARRETTGOODRICH]

The Medwick card is wonderful, but why, oh why, is there a +injury there? It shows as his 1937 card, and per baseball-reference the man led the league with 156 games played and batted 4th in every game that year. It goes against the grain when so many other players don't have an injury on their card because they played in every game, so he should be no different. Then again, I've wondered the same about Jackie Robinson and his 1949 card, when there also should have been no injury.

[WeatherNut]

[quote:88b631da26]The Medwick card is wonderful, but why, oh why, is there a +injury there? It shows as his 1937 card, and per baseball-reference the man led the league with 156 games played and batted 4th in every game that year. It goes against the grain when so many other players don't have an injury on their card because they played in every game, so he should be no different. Then again, I've wondered the same about Jackie Robinson and his 1949 card, when there also should have been no injury.[/quote:88b631da26]

Yes, Medwick led the league with 156 games played. But, he missed one game. Baseball Reference says the Cardinals played 157 that year.

WN

[GARRETTGOODRICH]

[quote:ab2147eba0="WeatherNut"][quote:ab2147eba0]The Medwick card is wonderful, but why, oh why, is there a +injury there? It shows as his 1937 card, and per baseball-reference the man led the league with 156 games played and batted 4th in every game that year. It goes against the grain when so many other players don't have an injury on their card because they played in every game, so he should be no different. Then again, I've wondered the same about Jackie Robinson and his 1949 card, when there also should have been no injury.[/quote:ab2147eba0]

Yes, Medwick led the league with 156 games played. But, he missed one game. Baseball Reference says the Cardinals played 157 that year.

WN[/quote:ab2147eba0]

There is a peculiar technicality from that season, as on June 6th it shows that the visiting team won by forfeit. That would be the additional game, and yet if you go to the section of that 1937 Cardinals team that says Batting Orders, it specifically shows that Medwick batted fourth all 156 games and nobody else did. I still think it's a card that should have been injury free - Just like in 1949, Jackie Robinson played in all 156 games and has a +injury on his card, even though it doesn't appear that the Dodgers had any more than 156 games that year.

[drfreeze49]

From http://research.sabr.org/journals/why-and-wherefore-of-forfeit-games

[b:128b3e6797]Ducky Medwick[/b:128b3e6797], then with the St. Louis Cardinals, lost a home run in a game that was [b:128b3e6797]forfeited at Philadelphia, June 6, 1937[/b:128b3e6797], before five innings were played. This was the second game. The first one had been [b:128b3e6797]delayed for an hour and a half[/b:128b3e6797] by rain. The nightcap began shortly after 5:30 p.m. and Sunday games couldn't be played [b:128b3e6797]after 6:59[/b:128b3e6797]. The first inning must have taken a long time to complete, with the Cardinals scoring five times and the Phillies twice. [b:128b3e6797]With two out and the Cardinals leading 8 to 2 in the top of the fifth, and the curfew fast approaching, the Philadelphia players were stalling, hoping the umpire would cry out, "Stopped by the curfew,"[/b:128b3e6797] but instead the umpire screamed, [b:128b3e6797]"forfeit,"[/b:128b3e6797] and St. Louis was the winner. When the season ended Medwick and Mel Ott were tied for the [b:128b3e6797]National League home run title with 31 each.[/b:128b3e6797] This was the only year Medwick came close to the home run title.